Divide and conquer???

[backhoeboogie]

Are we all supposed to read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" applying it to our posts here in this forum or can we speak our mind and be frank?

I will meet probably 100 people by the end of the year and I am really gonna like some of those folks. Some I won't much care for and some won't care for me much either. That is the way life is. I suspect there will be more in this forum who don't like what I have to say or disagree with something I feel strongly about. Is there a chance we can find common ground on other issues?

I am pretty hard headed in case you don't know.

I work with a bunch of engineers who make fun of common folks and I resent that. Some of that bunch are pretty good folks too tho. I generally each lunch with the ones I like.

It does me good to listen here, learn some things, engage in dialog, and I look forward to checking the posts and/or replies. There are times I don't know diddly about the subject matter but have interest in it. I don't engage in the dialog but I do pay much attention when something catches my interest.

It seems to me we could all be better served by simply applying some of Macon's advice on playing nice with one another.

When I am dead wrong, please set me straight. (I still think that the plant is a variety of sumac but oh well. Least that's what lots of folks call it)

I am going to shut up and listen now. If you disagree please let me know. If you agree let me know.

I hope everyone speaks their mind and replies.

 

[john250]

I work with a bunch of engineers who make fun of common folks and I resent that. Some of that bunch are pretty good folks too tho. I generally each lunch with the ones I like.

About those engineers--do they know the difference between cowboy boots and engineer boots?

Cowboy boots have be nice on the OUTSIDE.

 

[warpaint]

I thought that was lawyer's boots!

 

[Alice]

Backhoe,

I had a professor once tell me, "You don't have to like me...you also don't have to go out of your way to be nasty to me."

Used to be us Texans prided ourselves on our manners. We prided ourselves on being nice and mannerly even when we disagreed with someone. We prided ourselves on being nice and mannerly when we chewed somebody out. We prided ourselves on getting our points across while being nice and mannerly. We prided ourselves in getting things accomplished the way we thought they should be accomplished by being nice and mannerly. Ask any northern attorney how he feels about going up against a Texan attorney. The grimace will tell you what the answer to that question is.

I'm afraid manners has gone the way of the world. Rude, in your face, smarta$$ behavior (especially couched with the excuse/justification "I'm just telling it like it is" is becoming the norm.

My symapthies to you for having to face a bunch of northern raised engineers every day. Yuck!

Alice

 

[Carlos D.]

For years I was in construction--I have cursed engineers in every possible way --I found them an arragant lot but ,I quess we need them.---but your right; the more people we talk to the ;the broader our knowledge ,The more imput we get from others the more we may be able to identify our faults and change them

carl

 

[redfornow]

BAckhoeboogie

If you are outa line I correct you, but only if you do the same for me. We can get thru this, its a nine step process.
Step number one is admiting you have a problem.
I know I do....

MD

 

[redfornow]

BAckhoeboogie

If you are outa line I correct you, but only if you do the same for me. We can get thru this, its a nine step process.
Step number one is admiting you have a problem.
I know I do....

MD

 

[backhoeboogie]

BAckhoeboogie

If you are outa line I correct you, but only if you do the same for me. We can get thru this, its a nine step process.
Step number one is admiting you have a problem.
I know I do....

MD

:lol:

If I go full time cattle, I'd be working for myself. My boss would be a hard headed total jerk (being nice here). I'd wind up spending all profit on counselling.

Got some PMs on this thread. I appreciate the responses, both positive and negative. It is a shame folks can't say what they want to say.

Yep. I gotta problem.

 

[chrisy]

It is a shame that folks can't say what they want, as when they do the thread gets locked, so it would seem we all have to agree to disagree on occasions. to stop silly arguments getting out of hand.

 

[backhoeboogie]

It is a shame that folks can't say what they want, as when they do the thread gets locked, so it would seem we all have to agree to disagree on occasions. to stop silly arguments getting out of hand.

Back in the 60's, I used to always hear an old phrase, "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it." What happened to that mindset? Have we become the people that are folks warned us of?

 

[redfornow]

This is a whole different disscussion.
But what is legal may not be what is right. Many times it isnt.

BHB, I will fight for every persons right to a thoughtful stand.
But being kind never goes out of style.
Thats what I tell my kids, so I must believe it. :shock:

But I am impossible to run off, to much fun to be had to leave.


MD

 

[cmjust0]

I spent a little time working on an assembly line when I was in college, and we had a young guy who just sorta showed up one day with a notebook and a pencil. He was maybe two or three years older than me -- clearly straight out of the classroom -- so I struck up a conversation with him. I said "So, what have they got you doing here?" In a real dry, monotone voice he replied "I'm an engineer." I said "Oh, cool! So tell me... What's it like to drive a train?"

He stared at me blankly for a second and said, in that same monotone voice, "No, not that kind of engineer. I'm a mechanical engineer."

Well gee, ya don't say. :help:

I just turned around and went back to working, for I knew right away that I wouldn't have been the first to try -- in vain, obviously -- to explain the concept of humor to this dillweed..

I have no doubt, though, that he probably went back to his engineer buddies and said "you guys will never guess what this idiot lineworker said to me today....." :roll:

 

[john250]

My symapthies to you for having to face a bunch of northern raised engineers every day. Yuck!

Alice

Uh, Alice. He didn't say they was "northern raised" engineers. Just engineers. I suppose it's possible that southern boys and girls, even Texas boys and girls, could possibly become engineers.
If they worked hard. :lol:

The joke I told was just the way the ag school used to gig the engineering school. Actually, some of my best friends are engineers--but you didn't hear me say that.

 

[Campground Cattle]

It is a shame that folks can't say what they want, as when they do the thread gets locked, so it would seem we all have to agree to disagree on occasions. to stop silly arguments getting out of hand.

Back in the 60's, I used to always hear an old phrase, "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it." What happened to that mindset? Have we become the people that are folks warned us of?

Well said, funny how mad people get on this board if they don't hear it their way.

 

[Alice]

My symapthies to you for having to face a bunch of northern raised engineers every day. Yuck!

Alice

Uh, Alice. He didn't say they was "northern raised" engineers. Just engineers. I suppose it's possible that southern boys and girls, even Texas boys and girls, could possibly become engineers.
If they worked hard. :lol:

The joke I told was just the way the ag school used to gig the engineering school. Actually, some of my best friends are engineers--but you didn't hear me say that.

When I sent that I thought, wait, he didn't say northern engineers. I just happen to know that many engineers there at Comanche Peak are from the north. I live close to Comanche Peak and know people that work there and have worked there for a very long time.

But, I shouldn't have made that distinction. My bad...

Alice

 

[Wewild]

It is a shame that folks can't say what they want, as when they do the thread gets locked, so it would seem we all have to agree to disagree on occasions. to stop silly arguments getting out of hand.

Back in the 60's, I used to always hear an old phrase, "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it." What happened to that mindset? Have we become the people that are folks warned us of?

Well said, funny how mad people get on this board if they don't hear it their way.

Best posts on this thread so far.

 

[VanC]

I was always told to just be yourself and the rest will take care of itself. Some will like you, some won't. That's life. I can usually tell the difference between people who are just being natural and those who are trying to pump themselves up, even on an internet chat board. Not always, but usually.

Some people just can't take criticism very well, and some people just can't give criticism very well. As for those who enjoy making others feel small, well, I always figured that deep down they feel inferior in some way. Hence the need to look down upon others.

It would be nice if "we could all just get along", but in the end I'm afraid that's impossible. There will always be conflicts of some kind. But let's at least try and keep it civil.

 

[Workinonit Farm]

Back in the 60's, I used to always hear an old phrase, "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it." What happened to that mindset? Have we become the people that are folks warned us of?

Well said, funny how mad people get on this board if they don't hear it their way.

:nod: :nod:

Katherine

 

[redfornow]

I was always told to just be yourself and the rest will take care of itself. Some will like you, some won't. That's life. I can usually tell the difference between people who are just being natural and those who are trying to pump themselves up, even on an internet chat board. Not always, but usually.

Some people just can't take criticism very well, and some people just can't give criticism very well. As for those who enjoy making others feel small, well, I always figured that deep down they feel inferior in some way. Hence the need to look down upon others.

It would be nice if "we could all just get along", but in the end I'm afraid that's impossible. There will always be conflicts of some kind. But let's at least try and keep it civil.

Good post Van
The mods should sticky this one close to the top.
Well said
MD

 

[backhoeboogie]

My symapthies to you for having to face a bunch of northern raised engineers every day. Yuck!

Alice

Uh, Alice. He didn't say they was "northern raised" engineers. Just engineers. I suppose it's possible that southern boys and girls, even Texas boys and girls, could possibly become engineers.
If they worked hard. :lol:

The joke I told was just the way the ag school used to gig the engineering school. Actually, some of my best friends are engineers--but you didn't hear me say that.

When I sent that I thought, wait, he didn't say northern engineers. I just happen to know that many engineers there at Comanche Peak are from the north. I live close to Comanche Peak and know people that work there and have worked there for a very long time.

But, I shouldn't have made that distinction. My bad...

Alice

Dang it is hard for me to keep my mouth shut!

Alice, I have never heard any engineer from the south refer to local farmers as "cedar hackers" or "fence menders".

I do indeed have a few peers from the New England area who are very good folks.

cmjust0, I take great pride in the fact that laymen call me when they need help. They could call lots of others if they chose.

Van, your wisdom shows yet again.