CreekAngus
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greybeard said:
They do that here, buying in Chehalis and then hauling a truck load over to Toppenish.
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They do that here, buying in Chehalis and then hauling a truck load over to Toppenish.
Dave
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CreekAngus said:
I did that more than once in Chehalis. But with Chehalis on Friday and Toppenish on Thursday you have to hold them 6 days. The price difference Chehalis/Toppenish is a lot more than Vale/La Grande.
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Caustic Burno
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No that’s a little out of the neighborhood by about 400 miles.
Stocker Steve
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Aaron said:
We have five (5) out of state experts here in August to make us profitable. How much can you afford pay for a two day event?
Stocker Steve said:
Well, if it's 5 and they are out of state, then they must obviously know how to make it rain money in Minnesota!
I honestly don't even go to local events to hear people speak anymore. Every time I did, I looked at the paper numbers and figures they are pushing, see what kind of vehicle they drove in with, and then ask, "So what do you do as a day job?" I have yet to meet one yet that says 'I ranch fulltime' and 'my wife doesn't work plus we have 5 kids'
Get me a whole truckload of those guys and I will pay big bucks to hear what they have to say. I keep being told that they don't exist.
The guys that do speak never seem to be real keen to tell me how much debt they are carrying.
Stocker Steve
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Common theme seems to be increasing stocking density while still having a high ADG and then selling meat direct to consumer. Please mail me U$S 700. I need to replace my rusty farm truck.
Stocker Steve said:
Yeah, I'll pass on the selling direct to consumer. I am a cattleman, not a beef producer. Once it exits the ring, my job is done and I want nothing to do with the general public.
Your truck didn't look too rusty in my yard. MN winters have not been kind to it?
Also where are you picking up a new farm truck for $700? Are Chevy dealers hurting that bad?
Stocker Steve
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That's $700, or one 4 wt. steer, each. Go big or go home.
The joke is on you Cowgirl8. Burno doesn't have near the number of like kind calves to send to OKC. You though I don't know why you use the local barns. They don't sell 20,000 head up there a week between the two barns for nothing.
Listen to the cattle flash report in the other thread going on about cattle prices and see what he says about OKC West.
Listen to the cattle flash report in the other thread going on about cattle prices and see what he says about OKC West.
I know someone a little closer than us, took calves to OK. Said it wasn't worth the hauling, chance of losing a calf.. Maybe he stalks this forum...lol..... We don't have that many calves.. if we have 300, they are 3 months different in age and half are heifers... We're better off taking calves that match in groups, over several months..
What do you mean chance of losing a calf? You have way more than I do and a shorter drive and I find it feasible.
bird dog said:
We'd have to wean, vaccinate. This happens around Oct, maybe Nov if the grass holds out. This is when cold fronts come though, rain, mud...blah blah.. We don't and will not build a barn to hold that many calves for weeks. So, you have newly weaned calves, sanding in cold rain and sometimes ice, knee deep mud...wind. You get them on feed and occasionally you get one that bloats.. Pneumonia.... injury....all in this weaning time table. Lose one, lose 2, have one injured, your profits go down.. Then, the trailer ride there. Its a long drive. Haul enough calves and you'll lose one occasionally. All this work, when, we can get our calves up, pick out a trailer load of calves in the same weight range...sell.. Do that a few times...done with it. Now, you say buyers come and just haul them to OK... that's fine, but they have to buy a bunch at the same weight and likeness and this is also work. They also take a risk of losing some.....so their numbers have to be way up there to make it worth what little extra they get by hauling them to OK..
I understand I guess. Its not buyers that haul them. You do it on your own or hire out your own. And while it is best to have them preconditioned, they don't have to be and quite a few are not. Its a simple process, take them to the stockyards or OKC West, tell them what you have and what you done if anything. If they are fresh off the cow, tell them so. They will take them from there and sort them in whatever size groups that is needed to get you the best sales price. The stockyards uses commission companies, OKC West does it all in house.
Both pen them in their own pen with fresh water and good feed. Commission is by the head and runs about $20 to $27 per head, feed included. Pricing is usually about .10 to .15 a lb better than my local barns and your shrink will be 0 to 5% depending on how well they are eating versus 5 to 12% at your local barn.
For me the higher price easily pays the freight with the shrink difference,making it worth it. Commission is a few dollars a head cheaper depending on how early you take them before the sale.
Probably not enough $ for you to make a difference, but it is to me plus I have some pride in putting a good animal into the market that I feel the buyer will be happy with. To each his own I guess.
Both pen them in their own pen with fresh water and good feed. Commission is by the head and runs about $20 to $27 per head, feed included. Pricing is usually about .10 to .15 a lb better than my local barns and your shrink will be 0 to 5% depending on how well they are eating versus 5 to 12% at your local barn.
For me the higher price easily pays the freight with the shrink difference,making it worth it. Commission is a few dollars a head cheaper depending on how early you take them before the sale.
Probably not enough $ for you to make a difference, but it is to me plus I have some pride in putting a good animal into the market that I feel the buyer will be happy with. To each his own I guess.
