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<blockquote data-quote="CattleMan1920" data-source="post: 1579052" data-attributes="member: 37967"><p>Please don't construe what I say as a judgment call against DVF. </p><p></p><p>I personally, like to have a herd that is made up of different ages, I run young cattle with ones that are old as dirt. Think about having granddaughter, mom, grandmother, and possibly great grandmother together. I know members on CT will laugh, but there are studies on hierarchy in cattle and it's effects on heifers performance, also I have my own observations. </p><p></p><p>In addition if I have a cow, which I have more than a handful that are over 14 years old, I can pay close attention to what is holding up and what is falling apart. I'm one who likes to see if they can stand the test of time, especially with feet. You cannot tell how feet will hold up if they are out the door at 3 years old.</p><p></p><p>I keep in mind that whoever is buying from me might not be rotating females out at that rate and might want an cow that can be used for many years, and problem free at that. </p><p></p><p>Another reason is that I'm trying to focus on producing pathfinders. Stone Gate for example, has a lot of pathfinders if you look up what they have split amongst the owners in their overall operation. That tells me that they have excellent cows, that perform. Unless I'm wrong, you can't get a Pathfinder as a heifer. </p><p></p><p>I don't have any pathfinders that I have produced yet. When you look at newer operations in Kentucky, even Boyd's, they don't have the sheer number of pathfinders in their herds that Stone Gate does. I think this is a function of selling cows quickly and never seeing what develops. Stone Gate has clients that wouldn't buy from anywhere else, and that is from multiple generations, that didn't happen overnight. My hunch is that their cows made people money long term. </p><p></p><p>True, it may put more money in your pocket short term to sell them out at 3 years old, and it would sure be nice to get a big check, but if anything I would keep my older females around as recips so that I don't have to buy them. It still takes a great cow to raise a great calf whether it's her own or ET.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CattleMan1920, post: 1579052, member: 37967"] Please don’t construe what I say as a judgment call against DVF. I personally, like to have a herd that is made up of different ages, I run young cattle with ones that are old as dirt. Think about having granddaughter, mom, grandmother, and possibly great grandmother together. I know members on CT will laugh, but there are studies on hierarchy in cattle and it’s effects on heifers performance, also I have my own observations. In addition if I have a cow, which I have more than a handful that are over 14 years old, I can pay close attention to what is holding up and what is falling apart. I’m one who likes to see if they can stand the test of time, especially with feet. You cannot tell how feet will hold up if they are out the door at 3 years old. I keep in mind that whoever is buying from me might not be rotating females out at that rate and might want an cow that can be used for many years, and problem free at that. Another reason is that I’m trying to focus on producing pathfinders. Stone Gate for example, has a lot of pathfinders if you look up what they have split amongst the owners in their overall operation. That tells me that they have excellent cows, that perform. Unless I’m wrong, you can’t get a Pathfinder as a heifer. I don’t have any pathfinders that I have produced yet. When you look at newer operations in Kentucky, even Boyd’s, they don’t have the sheer number of pathfinders in their herds that Stone Gate does. I think this is a function of selling cows quickly and never seeing what develops. Stone Gate has clients that wouldn’t buy from anywhere else, and that is from multiple generations, that didn’t happen overnight. My hunch is that their cows made people money long term. True, it may put more money in your pocket short term to sell them out at 3 years old, and it would sure be nice to get a big check, but if anything I would keep my older females around as recips so that I don’t have to buy them. It still takes a great cow to raise a great calf whether it’s her own or ET. [/QUOTE]
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