Deciding on what cattle to raise

[Newrancher2020]

I recently was just gifted 50 acres and I am trying to decide what cattle to run on my property. I am mainly looking for a cow bull combination that will calf easy and I like in southeast Texas

 

[Caustic Burno]

I recently was just gifted 50 acres and I am trying to decide what cattle to run on my property. I am mainly looking for a cow bull combination that will calf easy and I like in southeast Texas

Hard to beat one of the Brahman composites here in SE Texas.
Bradford,Brangus cows using a terminal bull is norm for the environment.
Cattle just are easier keepers in this environment with some Brahman influence.

 

[Brute 23]

CB is correct. Any where from 3/8 to 1/8 Brahman will do you good down here.

Braford, Brangus, Beefmaster, etc will all do you good but dont overlook good commercial cattle with a little ear either. Superbaldies and some of those can be great also.

I'm a big fan of putting a Black Angus bull on them. It will make them a little more uniform and they will sell good any where around here.

 

[Newrancher2020]

I was thinking of Santa Gertrudis, Angus Beefmaster or maybe Charolais but didn't know what to pick

 

[Caustic Burno]

Gerts and Beefmasters are harder to come by, you will pay a premium over Brangus or Bradford in SE Texas.
What county are you calling SE Texas only consist of three counties Orange ,Jefferson and Hardin Then you start getting into East Texas Jasper, Sabine, Hardin, Tyler,Polk,or Liberty.
This is not all inclusive.
Lot of variation in environment in those counties. Closer I got to the coast the more Brahman I would want.

https://www.east-texas.com/south-east-texas.htm

 

[Newrancher2020]

Gerts and Beefmasters are harder to come by, you will pay a premium over Brangus or Bradford in SE Texas.
What county are you calling SE Texas only consist of three counties Orange ,Jefferson and Hardin Then you start getting into East Texas Jasper, Sabine, Hardin, Tyler,Polk,or Liberty.
This is not all inclusive.
Lot of variation in environment in those counties. Closer I got to the coast the more Brahman I would want.

It would be orange/jasper county right on the line.

 

[Caustic Burno]

You will be better off with good eared cattle as Brute suggested with a good terminal bull. Being Livingston and Raywood are your two closest salebarns, followed by Crockett and Nacogdoches. Is Raywood still open?
I know Crockett receives cattle at China for the sale.

 

[Newrancher2020]

I am not sure what you mean by a terminal bull or good eared

 

[greggy]

Where do I put my name down so I can be gifted acres ?

 

[A.J.]

A terminal bull is typically one that you would not plan on keeping calves out of for replacements, so the planned end result for the calves would be to go to the feeder market. With a terminal bull, your priority would be adding the most growth/pounds in the shortest amount of time (usually by weaning), and not focused on traits you would look at for calves you might want to keep for replacements or breeding stock. There are terminal type bulls in all breeds. Caustic and others have had some bad experiences with the bulls in the past, but Charolais is one example of a breed sometimes used in terminal crossbred operations because they are noted for fast growth and adding framesize. Eared cattle is another term used for Brahman influenced cattle. Do you have experience with cattle in the past? The reason I ask is eared cattle typically are handled differently than most other breeds like Herefords or Angus. They are very smart and respond to how they are treated. They can be dog gentle if handled properly, but if you try to cowboy them, you will receive like treatment. They are easier to lead than drive. I don't live in Texas, so I don't know the markets there, but I would think a Hereford bull over Brangus cows or an Angus bull over Braford cows would give you some nice black calves that you would have several options with.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Super baldie calves always bring in the top prices.

 

[MO-Ruminants]

Sheep. You'll sell more pounds, and often for more dollars per pound. If it bothers your pride, tell everyone they're someone else's and drop your lamb check in the bank's night deposit so nobody sees you.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Sheep. You'll sell more pounds, and often for more dollars per pound. If it bothers your pride, tell everyone they're someone else's and drop your lamb check in the bank's night deposit so nobody sees you.

Not sheep in SE Texas now goats is a different story. If you can keep the kids alive from bobcats, coyotes and stray dogs they usually bring good money.
I have no clue what my neighbor down the road spent on cyclone fence, it worked on the canine's the bobcats would drag the kids up to the fence. I guess they couldn't climb with the kid.

 

[Brute 23]

This is cattle country... dont be bringing them smelly sheep in here. :cowboy:

 

[Caustic Burno]

Here you go! These won't be gifted.
Checkbook required.

At Crockett
Selling, Tuesday 3/3/20, over 400 head of replacement cattle. All ranch raised and true set of young pairs and bred cows. Click on the links below to see the videos of each set of cattle.

110 Black WF Pairs, 3-5 year olds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4e9Qog6ho

100 Crossbred young pairs/bred cows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kofl3m2x-Ak

40 Young Herefords and Red Angus pairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNCSj9fwmR4

50 crossbred young cows. Pairs/3rd trimester: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KNMHNR_q10

35 open, never been with a bull, 8-900 lbs replacement heifers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwRSz8MYo3c

3 young Brahman bulls, JD Hudgins bloodlines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB1-eTnyRhY

Also, 35 hd of 3-6 year old ranch raised Brangus pairs/heavy bred and several other small sets of cattle.

Call (936) 545-5251 or (936) 545-5045 for more info.

Thanks,

Paul Craycraft

 

[Newrancher2020]

A terminal bull is typically one that you would not plan on keeping calves out of for replacements, so the planned end result for the calves would be to go to the feeder market. With a terminal bull, your priority would be adding the most growth/pounds in the shortest amount of time (usually by weaning), and not focused on traits you would look at for calves you might want to keep for replacements or breeding stock. There are terminal type bulls in all breeds. Caustic and others have had some bad experiences with the bulls in the past, but Charolais is one example of a breed sometimes used in terminal crossbred operations because they are noted for fast growth and adding framesize. Eared cattle is another term used for Brahman influenced cattle. Do you have experience with cattle in the past? The reason I ask is eared cattle typically are handled differently than most other breeds like Herefords or Angus. They are very smart and respond to how they are treated. They can be dog gentle if handled properly, but if you try to cowboy them, you will receive like treatment. They are easier to lead than drive. I don't live in Texas, so I don't know the markets there, but I would think a Hereford bull over Brangus cows or an Angus bull over Braford cows would give you some nice black calves that you would have several options with.

I am very use to dealing with cattle and Brahman. So I was thinking Charolais bull over Angus cows or Brahman bull over Angus cows

 

[Brute 23]

Here you go! These won't be gifted.
Checkbook required.

At Crockett
Selling, Tuesday 3/3/20, over 400 head of replacement cattle. All ranch raised and true set of young pairs and bred cows. Click on the links below to see the videos of each set of cattle.

110 Black WF Pairs, 3-5 year olds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4e9Qog6ho

100 Crossbred young pairs/bred cows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kofl3m2x-Ak

40 Young Herefords and Red Angus pairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNCSj9fwmR4

50 crossbred young cows. Pairs/3rd trimester: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KNMHNR_q10

35 open, never been with a bull, 8-900 lbs replacement heifers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwRSz8MYo3c

3 young Brahman bulls, JD Hudgins bloodlines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB1-eTnyRhY

Also, 35 hd of 3-6 year old ranch raised Brangus pairs/heavy bred and several other small sets of cattle.

Call (936) 545-5251 or (936) 545-5045 for more info.

Thanks,

Paul Craycraft

I wonder what the scoop is on the Herefords? I could use 10-15 if the were priced right and bred.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Call Craycraft he will give it to you.

 

[Caustic Burno]

A terminal bull is typically one that you would not plan on keeping calves out of for replacements, so the planned end result for the calves would be to go to the feeder market. With a terminal bull, your priority would be adding the most growth/pounds in the shortest amount of time (usually by weaning), and not focused on traits you would look at for calves you might want to keep for replacements or breeding stock. There are terminal type bulls in all breeds. Caustic and others have had some bad experiences with the bulls in the past, but Charolais is one example of a breed sometimes used in terminal crossbred operations because they are noted for fast growth and adding framesize. Eared cattle is another term used for Brahman influenced cattle. Do you have experience with cattle in the past? The reason I ask is eared cattle typically are handled differently than most other breeds like Herefords or Angus. They are very smart and respond to how they are treated. They can be dog gentle if handled properly, but if you try to cowboy them, you will receive like treatment. They are easier to lead than drive. I don't live in Texas, so I don't know the markets there, but I would think a Hereford bull over Brangus cows or an Angus bull over Braford cows would give you some nice black calves that you would have several options with.

I am very use to dealing with cattle and Brahman. So I was thinking Charolais bull over Angus cows or Brahman bull over Angus cows

So you have a terminal operation.
Why buy the highest priced cow that will suffer the most in SE Texas heat and humidity making her a hard keeper.
Red cow is cheaper and you can dictate the calf crop color with your choice of bull. Char you get yellow calves they sell well Angus or Brangus bull black calves with reduced B.W. high WW that sell at the top as well.
Hereford bull over some commercial Brimmer girls make for some premium dollar replacement heifers again reduced B.W. and high WW that will mash the scales.

 

[Newrancher2020]

A terminal bull is typically one that you would not plan on keeping calves out of for replacements, so the planned end result for the calves would be to go to the feeder market. With a terminal bull, your priority would be adding the most growth/pounds in the shortest amount of time (usually by weaning), and not focused on traits you would look at for calves you might want to keep for replacements or breeding stock. There are terminal type bulls in all breeds. Caustic and others have had some bad experiences with the bulls in the past, but Charolais is one example of a breed sometimes used in terminal crossbred operations because they are noted for fast growth and adding framesize. Eared cattle is another term used for Brahman influenced cattle. Do you have experience with cattle in the past? The reason I ask is eared cattle typically are handled differently than most other breeds like Herefords or Angus. They are very smart and respond to how they are treated. They can be dog gentle if handled properly, but if you try to cowboy them, you will receive like treatment. They are easier to lead than drive. I don't live in Texas, so I don't know the markets there, but I would think a Hereford bull over Brangus cows or an Angus bull over Braford cows would give you some nice black calves that you would have several options with.

I am very use to dealing with cattle and Brahman. So I was thinking Charolais bull over Angus cows or Brahman bull over Angus cows

So you have a terminal operation.
Why buy the highest priced cow that will suffer the most in SE Texas heat and humidity making her a hard keeper.
Red cow is cheaper and you can dictate the calf crop color with your choice of bull. Char you get yellow calves they sell well Angus or Brangus bull black calves with reduced B.W. high WW that sell at the top as well.
Hereford bull over some commercial Brimmer girls make for some premium dollar replacement heifers again reduced B.W. and high WW that will mash the scales.

So you suggest not using Angus cows and instead use Brahman cows