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Do distillers grains affect beef quality?

12/21/2006, 9:18 AM CST




Recently, Certified Angus Beef commissioned a white paper to evaluate factors affecting beef quality. This study was conducted to review factors that may be involved in a recent decline nationally in beef quality grades.

A number of factors were identified including cattle health, feedlot size, steam flaking of corn and implant programs.

Increased use of corn co-product feeds were mentioned also. An analysis of experiments using distillers grains showed that feeding greater than 30% decreased marbling by about one-third of a marbling score. While the magnitude of the marbling effect of distillers grains feeding on marbling was small, this review set off a fire storm of re-analysis of existing data on the effect of distillers grains on marbling.

Most experiments conducted to date with distillers feeds were designed to measure the nutritional value of the product. So cattle were fed to constant days on feed rather than a constant endpoint. The result is that few individual experiments show negative carcass effects.

To get at the bottom of this issue requires analysis of multiple experiments or studies designed to evaluate carcass effects. Recently, Dr. Allen Trenkle of Iowa State University summarized four ISU studies where cattle were fed up to 40% distillers grains. There was some reduction in marbling at the high levels, but the net value of the carcasses in a typical grid market was not greatly different.

Taste panel analysis of tenderness, juiciness and flavor was not changed. Interestingly, corn gluten feed did not change marbling scores when fed up to 90% of the ration, suggesting that perhaps the fat content of the distillers grains may be the culprit in the marbling effect.

In another recent analysis, results indicated a decline in marbling with distillers grains feeding but not until the level reached approximately 50% of the ration dry matter. No effect on marbling was found when studies where wet distillers grains were fed.

The bottom line: Distillers grains may decrease marbling at very high levels. However, the effect is not large enough to cause great decreases in carcass value. Efforts to decrease the fat content of distillers grains may actually help reduce this effect.
 
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Good post Mike. We have access to brewers grain and are considering the option along with others to reduce our hay cost and increase our units.

Thanks.
 
I think you'll find that brewers grain and distillers grain are different. Brewers grain is mostly malted barley, whereas distillers grain is mostly corn.
B.
 
brianna":2g4z7xzv said:
I think you'll find that brewers grain and distillers grain are different. Brewers grain is mostly malted barley, whereas distillers grain is mostly corn.
B.

Thanks. How does Brewers grain do on cattle?
 
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Wewild":2rmq9ln6 said:
Good post Mike. We have access to brewers grain and are considering the option along with others to reduce our hay cost and increase our units.

Thanks.
Wewild- That is a workable plan, and I think that is a good idea. There is nothing that dictates the continued use of a protocol if something can be less expensive and achieve comparable results that your are seeking. The brewer's grain plan is going to be more in use in the future, and if it will work for you - that puts you ahead of the game.

DOC HARRIS
 
We switched to dry brewers grain about 3 months ago. Very palatable, cheaper and a marked improvement in gain. We feed it 20% of the mix. Whether the extra gain is fat or flesh remains to be seen however.
I read one report that described wet brewers grain as "the ingredient that puts milk in the pail".
B.
 
brianna":3o8zsfcs said:
We switched to dry brewers grain about 3 months ago. Very palatable, cheaper and a marked improvement in gain. We feed it 20% of the mix. Whether the extra gain is fat or flesh remains to be seen however.
I read one report that described wet brewers grain as "the ingredient that puts milk in the pail".
B.

Thank you.
 
When in dairy we used 15% brewers grains.50%rolled corn. 15%corn gluten. 5% cottonseed. 1% calcium.1% minerals, and 13%
roasted soybeans. This we fed at 20 lbs to 5 lbs per head per day depending on production and length of time into their lacation. This was in addition to free choice hay and 45lbs of corn silage.The brewers grains seemed to up our butterfat and protien.
JMO I think more than 20% in a mix would be a waste in dollars as all it would do is go to fat.
 

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