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<blockquote data-quote="K-SHIRES" data-source="post: 201741" data-attributes="member: 3624"><p>Born2run - On your question, we are a small potatoes husband and wife Dairy, so either I or my wife does all milking, as well as anything else that gets done around here! That said, there is huge gains in efficiency for large dairies that make it a solid policy that people working with cows keep their cool, don't scream or cuss at cows, and move in a steady(not neccesarily slow) pace. Cows just don't like surprizes, and raised voice levels actually cause them more physical pain than being slapped on the butt to move them over.</p><p> Yes, OXY can help a heifer let down. Yes, maybe it can help with Mastitis. My viewpoint is an economic one. For example, if 3 out of 430 cows on dairy using it, I would say gains are statistically outweighed by cost of stocking, storing ,monitoring usage. And needles along with their disposal ain't free either.</p><p> Yes, we may have a heifer that takes alittle longer to get past udder edema. If Mastitis comes, I reckon we'd treat it like any other case. I wasn't aware of your employer's conclusions as to affect on repro. But that don't surprise me. Any time you alter a cow's chemical nature, you can throw off or delay conception. Not much differnt than humans there. </p><p> One other thought - A new heifer is in strange surroundings, her bag hurts as it is tight with milk, and she misses her calf. So what do dairy folks do when she's not letting down? LET'S STICK A BIG NEEDLE IN HER! That would relax me!</p><p> Next time you have a heifer like that, try rubbing both sides of it's tailhead with one hand, and talking gently. Quicker to reach up and do that than go and get needle, draw out solution, give shot, jump out of way when she kicks, put needle and pharmeceutical bottle back.</p><p> Y'all can suit yourself - As for me I just don't believe the best economic solution always comes out of a bottle.</p><p>*******************</p><p>Hey born2run addl. info - my wife informed me that vets visiting her father's dairy would use oxytocin to induce labor in heifers, as it Encourages, stimulates contraction of the Uterus. If this is so, a plausible theory might be egg is fertilized at breeding, but then embrionic death loss due to contracting of uterus(when it shouldn't be). I'm not a vet or Phd( The only Phd I have is my Post Hole Digger ) so I'll stop here, but suspect your Employer is on to something there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="K-SHIRES, post: 201741, member: 3624"] Born2run - On your question, we are a small potatoes husband and wife Dairy, so either I or my wife does all milking, as well as anything else that gets done around here! That said, there is huge gains in efficiency for large dairies that make it a solid policy that people working with cows keep their cool, don't scream or cuss at cows, and move in a steady(not neccesarily slow) pace. Cows just don't like surprizes, and raised voice levels actually cause them more physical pain than being slapped on the butt to move them over. Yes, OXY can help a heifer let down. Yes, maybe it can help with Mastitis. My viewpoint is an economic one. For example, if 3 out of 430 cows on dairy using it, I would say gains are statistically outweighed by cost of stocking, storing ,monitoring usage. And needles along with their disposal ain't free either. Yes, we may have a heifer that takes alittle longer to get past udder edema. If Mastitis comes, I reckon we'd treat it like any other case. I wasn't aware of your employer's conclusions as to affect on repro. But that don't surprise me. Any time you alter a cow's chemical nature, you can throw off or delay conception. Not much differnt than humans there. One other thought - A new heifer is in strange surroundings, her bag hurts as it is tight with milk, and she misses her calf. So what do dairy folks do when she's not letting down? LET'S STICK A BIG NEEDLE IN HER! That would relax me! Next time you have a heifer like that, try rubbing both sides of it's tailhead with one hand, and talking gently. Quicker to reach up and do that than go and get needle, draw out solution, give shot, jump out of way when she kicks, put needle and pharmeceutical bottle back. Y'all can suit yourself - As for me I just don't believe the best economic solution always comes out of a bottle. ******************* Hey born2run addl. info - my wife informed me that vets visiting her father's dairy would use oxytocin to induce labor in heifers, as it Encourages, stimulates contraction of the Uterus. If this is so, a plausible theory might be egg is fertilized at breeding, but then embrionic death loss due to contracting of uterus(when it shouldn't be). I'm not a vet or Phd( The only Phd I have is my Post Hole Digger ) so I'll stop here, but suspect your Employer is on to something there. [/QUOTE]
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