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<blockquote data-quote="Katpau" data-source="post: 1594164" data-attributes="member: 9933"><p>You are right. My comment was actually meant for Branded, not everyone in the MidWest. I am sorry. As a former Minnesota girl my assumption was based on my own observations from my area, and I am sure it is not true in every area. I grew up with Dairy cows and I did not know anyone East of the Dakotas that didn't use a lot of corn. Actually beef cattle were rare in Central Minnesota at the time, and the country I lived in was pretty much all row crops and Dairy. Branded freely admits to being generous with the groceries, but it was unfair to say that is true of everyone. </p><p></p><p>I stand by my belief that cattle with mature weights suggested by the numbers on some SAV cattle, including America, would need more than poor quality grass to thrive. That is why I think many of the SAV cattle are much more suited to areas with green grass and cheap corn. In this area corn is always very expensive because of transportation costs. Summers are very dry and since I moved here in 1992 I discovered that our actual growing season for grasses was shorter then it was in Minnesota. Winters are too cool and summers too hot and dry. The cattle are eating dry mature grasses from June until September or October. If it rains before it gets cold there is a brief growing season in the Fall, but mid March to May are the best for grass. The best cows for this area, in my opinion, are 1100 to 1300 pounds. Some cows won't be seen from Spring turnout until they are gathered up in the Fall, so they need to be able to survive on the available forage. Breeding to a terminal bull works well. America or his sons may be that bull, but I would need some proof. As far as breeding for daughters, his current numbers would say no.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Katpau, post: 1594164, member: 9933"] You are right. My comment was actually meant for Branded, not everyone in the MidWest. I am sorry. As a former Minnesota girl my assumption was based on my own observations from my area, and I am sure it is not true in every area. I grew up with Dairy cows and I did not know anyone East of the Dakotas that didn't use a lot of corn. Actually beef cattle were rare in Central Minnesota at the time, and the country I lived in was pretty much all row crops and Dairy. Branded freely admits to being generous with the groceries, but it was unfair to say that is true of everyone. I stand by my belief that cattle with mature weights suggested by the numbers on some SAV cattle, including America, would need more than poor quality grass to thrive. That is why I think many of the SAV cattle are much more suited to areas with green grass and cheap corn. In this area corn is always very expensive because of transportation costs. Summers are very dry and since I moved here in 1992 I discovered that our actual growing season for grasses was shorter then it was in Minnesota. Winters are too cool and summers too hot and dry. The cattle are eating dry mature grasses from June until September or October. If it rains before it gets cold there is a brief growing season in the Fall, but mid March to May are the best for grass. The best cows for this area, in my opinion, are 1100 to 1300 pounds. Some cows won't be seen from Spring turnout until they are gathered up in the Fall, so they need to be able to survive on the available forage. Breeding to a terminal bull works well. America or his sons may be that bull, but I would need some proof. As far as breeding for daughters, his current numbers would say no. [/QUOTE]
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