CS = Electricity = BS

[dun]

Manure-to-electricity plan short-circuited
An ambitious plan to take manure and use it to generate enough power to light a small city has come crashing down. Many of those who invested in W. Patrick Moriarty's plan now tell The Los Angeles Times that they believe it was simply a ruse to enrich Moriarty and his business partner. Follow this link for more details http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... ck=tothtml

 

[Herefordcross]

There's a dairy a couple hours from me in PA. That actualy sells electric from manure back to the power company all of the time.
They've been doing this for a few years now, I believe it's Mason Dixon Farms or something like that.

 

[mitchwi]

There are farms in here in Wisconsin that do the same as Herefordcross stated... they produce enough to sustain themselves plus others.

 

[dun]

It's old technology and has been done for years, but not on the scale to supply all of the elctricity for a town.
Mother Earth News was touting it in the 70s and it had been done for many years before that in India.

dun

 

[Herefordcross]

Is it a problem of having enough manure in one spot to generate electricity for a whole town, or just not enough manure?

 

[dun]

Is it a problem of having enough manure in one spot to generate electricity for a whole town, or just not enough manure?

I would think it has part to do with an adequate supply the other problem I see is the cost of the facilitys. I saw where one ethanol plant plans to use the manure from feedlots to provide the enrgy for the plant then sell the corn gluten back to the feedlots. Typically there are problems with maintaing adequate heat to keep the stuff digesting and it takes a pretty good length of time from shutdown to when it can start generating again. I haven;t looked into the whole electricty from crap deal in a lot of years, I would think that some of those issues would have been addressed by now. But if they had, wouldn;t there be more plants doing it?

dun

 

[dun]

Here's a whole pot full of articles about energy from CS. I couldn;t find the one that was talking about not generating methane from the CS but used some other method that didn;t produce the methane.

http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/ ... ttery.html
http://www.auri.org/news/ainjul01/05page.htm
http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/el ... 22603.html
http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2 ... 31112.html
http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/re ... y?id=36794
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/article ... 19856e.txt
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... source=rss

 

[rkm]

I was told about 5 years ago that you need at least 500 adult dairy cows to make the investment and operating cost pay out. You have to have an agreement with the power co to take what electric you don't need. What they pay you for electric is a fraction of what you would pay for power from them. If it would pay anywhere it would pay here in NY, I read the cost for electricity was higher in NY than any other state.

 

[backhoeboogie]

What they pay you for electric is a fraction of what you would pay for power from them.

Sort of, but not really. When generators create juice, you can't bottle it. You have to "pipe it" through transmission lines and systems, convert it, transform it, and provide it to the consumers within regulations.

Generating facilities get the same nickel you get.

Transmission people have to be paid. Transformers and highlines have to be paid for (have you priced wire lately?). Meter readers won't work for free. the meter itself isn't free either. It all adds up and you pay for everything, along with the generation.

 

[aplusmnt]

They should just build a big plant in Washington DC, surely there is enough manure there to supply the whole Country :lol:

 

[mdmdogs3]

They should just build a big plant in Washington DC, surely there is enough manure there to supply the whole Country :lol:

:clap: :clap: :clap: :roll: :roll: :roll: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[andybob]

There are two articles on this subject using pig manure on;
http://www.thepigsite.com