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<blockquote data-quote="Badlands" data-source="post: 359333" data-attributes="member: 5010"><p>It is easier if you use Angus (Red or Black), but you don't have to. High marbling Herefords or good Non-Appendix Shorthorns will work just as well.</p><p></p><p>However, if you are selling at weaning, you can add $ by making them black, which as you know is a marketing strategy, rather than a principle based on any sound reasoning.</p><p></p><p>I still recommend using a red cow and putting a black bull over her for the terminal calves, unless you use a Charolais bull, then you probably want a black cow.</p><p></p><p>Which breeds? It varies with the environment, your marketing ability, etc.</p><p></p><p>It is nice to have a shot on Continental in the cowherd as that brings early puberty and more fertility, so you could do well with a Hereford/Simmental or Hereford/Gelbvieh or Hereford/Tarentaise (my favorite) cross cow and terminal sire her to most Angus big REA Black Angus bull. If the Angus bull has 80 pounds of YW EPD or more, those calves will grow right there with average Simmental and Gelbvieh of today. </p><p></p><p>I think Angus bulls are underutilized as terminal bulls today. Most people are still hung up on how fertile they are, but they really aren't all that great, and anybody with pure Angus and pue Gelbvieh or Simmental in the same herds will confirm that. They will also confirm that Angus grow as good as the Continentals and mature to just as large a size. So, why not use Angus as terminal sires? You get adaptability in the cowherd by keeping them red, and you get to sell Angus sired Black calves for all sorts of premiums, plus with the Continental influence from the cow, they WILL make more CAB than straight Angus.</p><p></p><p>Badlands</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Badlands, post: 359333, member: 5010"] It is easier if you use Angus (Red or Black), but you don't have to. High marbling Herefords or good Non-Appendix Shorthorns will work just as well. However, if you are selling at weaning, you can add $ by making them black, which as you know is a marketing strategy, rather than a principle based on any sound reasoning. I still recommend using a red cow and putting a black bull over her for the terminal calves, unless you use a Charolais bull, then you probably want a black cow. Which breeds? It varies with the environment, your marketing ability, etc. It is nice to have a shot on Continental in the cowherd as that brings early puberty and more fertility, so you could do well with a Hereford/Simmental or Hereford/Gelbvieh or Hereford/Tarentaise (my favorite) cross cow and terminal sire her to most Angus big REA Black Angus bull. If the Angus bull has 80 pounds of YW EPD or more, those calves will grow right there with average Simmental and Gelbvieh of today. I think Angus bulls are underutilized as terminal bulls today. Most people are still hung up on how fertile they are, but they really aren't all that great, and anybody with pure Angus and pue Gelbvieh or Simmental in the same herds will confirm that. They will also confirm that Angus grow as good as the Continentals and mature to just as large a size. So, why not use Angus as terminal sires? You get adaptability in the cowherd by keeping them red, and you get to sell Angus sired Black calves for all sorts of premiums, plus with the Continental influence from the cow, they WILL make more CAB than straight Angus. Badlands [/QUOTE]
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