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<blockquote data-quote="Farm Family" data-source="post: 1819339" data-attributes="member: 43070"><p>This is a LGD issue or certainly one that is often mentioned. She does not leave our home quarter. We have not had to move her to range land but I feel confident she would stay with her cows. If we had an issue I would not hesitate sending her cause I trust she knows her job. I am told this is the Maremma in her. Apparently Maremma's are home bodies and have strong species bonding.</p><p></p><p>We also have chickens that free range so she has enough work here she has no reason to leave is my thought. She is highly motivated to stay, never bored and loves the attention from those she cares for…chickens included. We keep a pair or two or some heifers home for her…they graze the marginal land around the yard. She would be too sad and lonely if they all left. And she has our lab. And the lab stays home too. So no roaming partner.</p><p></p><p>The bonding is so important. It means, imo, she has no desire to seek attention elsewhere. She is bonded here.</p><p></p><p>She came from working dogs. She does not have a breed in her genetics; she has proven skills and work ethic in her genetics - working dog genetics at work - working dogs is key!</p><p></p><p>Her parents were bonded to cattle and chickens. She was born in the hayshed by the cattle pastures/pens and chickens all over. I will never run a LGD that is not cattle bonded from birth. Not for this cattle based operation. I feel there is an importance to this, if they bond or know sheep for example their hearts will want sheep not cattle. That instinct does not, imo change.</p><p></p><p>She also stayed with her parents until she was 12 weeks old. She learned to work early, she learned to observe, she learned the mannerisms of the herd she was growing up to defend. She watched humans work that herd. She watched her parents defend that herd. Imperative in her training.</p><p></p><p>I did a lot of boundary work with her. And not just a barbed fence line…she learned "her environment". She knows her land, her cattle, her cats, her dog, her chickens, her equipment, her buildings, and her people. This dog is not what I would call "people social". She is not mean by any means but she has no desire to be petted by "strangers", she is a tad suspicious to new things and she prefers to observe from a distance. So given her personality she has little desire to explore other properties, species, or people. It keeps her home.</p><p></p><p>I recommend research on LGDs. Cattle and LGDs is a bit "new" or less studied I found. Many think a LGD in a cattle herd desensitizes the herd to canine predation. We have not found this, the cows know a predator, know the lab, know a guardian dog. I think there would be a challenge with a guardian and herder…those working dogs have different roles and could be in conflict…would be an interesting training focus for sure. A female I am told tends to be more maternal which helps suppress the wandering. In all training there are challenges but start how you want to finish, do your research and I highly recommend with LGDs bonding is most important.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Farm Family, post: 1819339, member: 43070"] This is a LGD issue or certainly one that is often mentioned. She does not leave our home quarter. We have not had to move her to range land but I feel confident she would stay with her cows. If we had an issue I would not hesitate sending her cause I trust she knows her job. I am told this is the Maremma in her. Apparently Maremma’s are home bodies and have strong species bonding. We also have chickens that free range so she has enough work here she has no reason to leave is my thought. She is highly motivated to stay, never bored and loves the attention from those she cares for…chickens included. We keep a pair or two or some heifers home for her…they graze the marginal land around the yard. She would be too sad and lonely if they all left. And she has our lab. And the lab stays home too. So no roaming partner. The bonding is so important. It means, imo, she has no desire to seek attention elsewhere. She is bonded here. She came from working dogs. She does not have a breed in her genetics; she has proven skills and work ethic in her genetics - working dog genetics at work - working dogs is key! Her parents were bonded to cattle and chickens. She was born in the hayshed by the cattle pastures/pens and chickens all over. I will never run a LGD that is not cattle bonded from birth. Not for this cattle based operation. I feel there is an importance to this, if they bond or know sheep for example their hearts will want sheep not cattle. That instinct does not, imo change. She also stayed with her parents until she was 12 weeks old. She learned to work early, she learned to observe, she learned the mannerisms of the herd she was growing up to defend. She watched humans work that herd. She watched her parents defend that herd. Imperative in her training. I did a lot of boundary work with her. And not just a barbed fence line…she learned “her environment”. She knows her land, her cattle, her cats, her dog, her chickens, her equipment, her buildings, and her people. This dog is not what I would call “people social”. She is not mean by any means but she has no desire to be petted by “strangers”, she is a tad suspicious to new things and she prefers to observe from a distance. So given her personality she has little desire to explore other properties, species, or people. It keeps her home. I recommend research on LGDs. Cattle and LGDs is a bit “new” or less studied I found. Many think a LGD in a cattle herd desensitizes the herd to canine predation. We have not found this, the cows know a predator, know the lab, know a guardian dog. I think there would be a challenge with a guardian and herder…those working dogs have different roles and could be in conflict…would be an interesting training focus for sure. A female I am told tends to be more maternal which helps suppress the wandering. In all training there are challenges but start how you want to finish, do your research and I highly recommend with LGDs bonding is most important. [/QUOTE]
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