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<blockquote data-quote="WAguy" data-source="post: 450704" data-attributes="member: 4335"><p>Weren't there quite a few buffalo in the country before the evil white man came with his cow? What's the difference?</p><p></p><p>Anybody else get the free Imprimis publication? Different speech given each month. Should be mandatory reading. Can subscribe at this site:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/subs_new.asp" target="_blank">https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/subs_new.asp</a></p><p></p><p>Speech below by this guy at site below:</p><p></p><p>S. Fred Singer</p><p>Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia </p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2007&month=08" target="_blank">http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/ ... 7&month=08</a></p><p></p><p>Excerpt below:</p><p></p><p>But aren’t glaciers melting? Isn’t sea ice shrinking? Yes, but that’s not proof for human-caused warming. Any kind of warming, whether natural or human-caused, will melt ice. To assert that melting glaciers prove human causation is just bad logic. </p><p>What about the fact that carbon dioxide levels are increasing at the same time tempera-tures are rising? That’s an interesting correlation; but as every scientist knows, correlation is not causation. During much of the last century the climate was cooling while CO2 levels were rising. And we should note that the climate has not warmed in the past eight years, even though greenhouse gas levels have increased rapidly. </p><p>What about the factâ€"as cited by, among others, those who produced the IPCC reportâ€"that every major greenhouse computer model (there are two dozen or so) shows a large tem-perature increase due to human burning of fossil fuels? Fortunately, there is a scientific way of testing these models to see whether current warming is due to a man-made greenhouse effect. It involves comparing the actual or observed pattern of warming with the warming pattern predicted by or calculated from the models. Essentially, we try to see if the “finger-prints†matchâ€"“fingerprints†meaning the rates of warming at different latitudes and alti-tudes. </p><p>For instance, theoretically, greenhouse warming in the tropics should register at increas-ingly high rates as one moves from the surface of the earth up into the atmosphere, peak-ing at about six miles above the earth’s surface. At that point, the level should be greater than at the surface by about a factor of three and quite pronounced, according to all the computer models. In reality, however, there is no increase at all. In fact, the data from bal-loon-borne radiosondes show the very opposite: a slight decrease in warming over the equator. </p><p>The fact that the observed and predicted patterns of warming don’t match indicates that the man-made greenhouse contribution to current temperature change is insignificant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WAguy, post: 450704, member: 4335"] Weren't there quite a few buffalo in the country before the evil white man came with his cow? What's the difference? Anybody else get the free Imprimis publication? Different speech given each month. Should be mandatory reading. Can subscribe at this site: [url=https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/subs_new.asp]https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/subs_new.asp[/url] Speech below by this guy at site below: S. Fred Singer Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia [url=http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2007&month=08]http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/ ... 7&month=08[/url] Excerpt below: But aren’t glaciers melting? Isn’t sea ice shrinking? Yes, but that’s not proof for human-caused warming. Any kind of warming, whether natural or human-caused, will melt ice. To assert that melting glaciers prove human causation is just bad logic. What about the fact that carbon dioxide levels are increasing at the same time tempera-tures are rising? That’s an interesting correlation; but as every scientist knows, correlation is not causation. During much of the last century the climate was cooling while CO2 levels were rising. And we should note that the climate has not warmed in the past eight years, even though greenhouse gas levels have increased rapidly. What about the fact—as cited by, among others, those who produced the IPCC report—that every major greenhouse computer model (there are two dozen or so) shows a large tem-perature increase due to human burning of fossil fuels? Fortunately, there is a scientific way of testing these models to see whether current warming is due to a man-made greenhouse effect. It involves comparing the actual or observed pattern of warming with the warming pattern predicted by or calculated from the models. Essentially, we try to see if the “finger-prints†match—“fingerprints†meaning the rates of warming at different latitudes and alti-tudes. For instance, theoretically, greenhouse warming in the tropics should register at increas-ingly high rates as one moves from the surface of the earth up into the atmosphere, peak-ing at about six miles above the earth’s surface. At that point, the level should be greater than at the surface by about a factor of three and quite pronounced, according to all the computer models. In reality, however, there is no increase at all. In fact, the data from bal-loon-borne radiosondes show the very opposite: a slight decrease in warming over the equator. The fact that the observed and predicted patterns of warming don’t match indicates that the man-made greenhouse contribution to current temperature change is insignificant. [/QUOTE]
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