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Stocker Steve

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Did some digging after the "make a living" thread got locked. Found some round about wording that suggested modeling leased vs. deeded land, and pages of cow/calf numbers. Some ranch management systems break their data into low/medium/high profit groups. The "high" 18% ROA northern plains group had:

- much less land investment - - could be leased land or higher stocking rates or moving north (Aaron will like this)
- higher weaning rate percent of cows exposed, but lighter calves than average (Kit will like this)
- a little less spending in almost all direct cost categories (I need some work in this area)

So there you go. Spend less and produce more! :cowboy:
 

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Stocker Steve":8rxpx2bz said:
Did some digging after the "make a living" thread got locked. Found some round about wording that suggested modeling leased vs. deeded land, and pages of cow/calf numbers. Some ranch management systems break their data into low/medium/high profit groups. The "high" 18% ROA northern plains group had:

- much less land investment - - could be leased land or higher stocking rates or moving north (Aaron will like this)
- higher weaning rate percent of cows exposed, but lighter calves than average (Kit will like this)
- a little less spending in almost all direct cost categories (I need some work in this area)

So there you go. Spend less and produce more! :cowboy:
I did not get that memo ;-)
 
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TCRanch":21oixo5w said:
I did not get that memo ;-)

Who would have thought???

The other key point is one that the "make a living" complainers are in denial about - - you can not have profitable cattle if you overpay for land and then blame cows for this. Most of the ag bean counters charge a nominal - - rent like - - fee per animal unit for grazing. Then the land costs beyond this are charged to a land enterprise, not a livestock enterprise.
 

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Stocker Steve":2ioxrfmc said:
Did some digging after the "make a living" thread got locked. Found some round about wording that suggested modeling leased vs. deeded land, and pages of cow/calf numbers. Some ranch management systems break their data into low/medium/high profit groups. The "high" 18% ROA northern plains group had:

- much less land investment - - could be leased land or higher stocking rates or moving north (Aaron will like this)
- higher weaning rate percent of cows exposed, but
lighter calves than average
(Kit will like this)
- a little less spending in almost all direct cost categories (I need some work in this area)

So there you go. Spend less and produce more! :cowboy:
What weight was the calves and were they sold at weaning or back grounded?
 
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Ag bean counters transfer calves at an approximate time to avoid comingling. They may be sold, or they may transfer into a seperate enterprise - - like back grounding.

Low ROA producers weaned 493# at 200 days
Medium ROA producers weaned 517# at 199 days
High ROA producers weaned 504# at 198 days

What I got out of it is that weaning weight has no correlation to ROA, :eek: for decent quality commercial cattle herds. Junk cattle would be different. Seed stock might be different.
 

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