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<blockquote data-quote="VCC" data-source="post: 771220" data-attributes="member: 6399"><p>How is it not about the kids and the cattle? My kids steers had some hair but not much, (no cool box) See pictures in fair steers 2010. He still worked them every day rinsed twice trained the little hair they had so they looked their best. The hair, skin and over all appearance was clean and healthy looking. He also won showmanship, I contribute this to all the time he put into the animals prior to the fair. </p><p>The same kids who whine about "hair only wins" are the same ones who would sit in the same spot in the class if we went to slick shear show. You are not going to beat the kid who has worked with his animal when all they do is pour feed in the barrel and check their water. Feed them when they have time, not on a given schedule. Wash them for the first time just before you load them on the trailer to go to the fair. Have the halters on them from day one because they can't catch them with out one, adjust them only after the see they are starting to digging in their heads. I know that is on the worst case side and there are a lot of kids who fit in the middle some where. The more time you put into it the better the results should be. </p><p>We have one family in our county that has a cool box and they are always at the top end, but I can guaranty that even with out the cool box their calves would still look hairy, the last few months before the fair he puts 2 to 3 hours in to each calf he has, he won champion at our fair and FFA champion at state. The cool box helps but with out the work you would a calf with long nasty hair. I believe that the lesson they learned is the more time you put in the more you will get out of it. </p><p></p><p>If you want it to be a level playing ground this is what you would have to do:</p><p>Find a ranch with uniform calves of the same age and breed,</p><p>Have each kid draw a number for their turn to pick a calf,</p><p>They would take these calves home and feed them out for their fair,</p><p>The animals would be judged on ADG, appearance, handling, and yield grade.</p><p>What you should end up with a bunch of calves that all look the same grade the same and weigh the same. </p><p>They won't be. Some kids will buy cheep feed, some kids will not feed on a schedule, and some kids won't adjust the feed as the calf grows. They will keep them in a tiny pen and never take them out. Some kids will work with them everyday, feed them the best feed they can, rinse and blow out every day. In the End the same kids on average will still be at the top and the same kids will be at the bottom.</p><p></p><p>We had one of those families that you are referring to, dad spends tons of money on cattle, buys a cool box, hires someone to work with the cattle. We beat them with a calf that cost less than a quarter of what theirs did last year. We fed ours right, my kid knew his animals faults and how to best hide them in the ring. (Not cheating just walking at a pace that did not exaggerate any problems, setting him up where he looked his best)</p><p>The father lost it when their steer did not win, they did not come back this year, my guess is he embarrassed his kids so bad they did not want to come back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VCC, post: 771220, member: 6399"] How is it not about the kids and the cattle? My kids steers had some hair but not much, (no cool box) See pictures in fair steers 2010. He still worked them every day rinsed twice trained the little hair they had so they looked their best. The hair, skin and over all appearance was clean and healthy looking. He also won showmanship, I contribute this to all the time he put into the animals prior to the fair. The same kids who whine about “hair only wins” are the same ones who would sit in the same spot in the class if we went to slick shear show. You are not going to beat the kid who has worked with his animal when all they do is pour feed in the barrel and check their water. Feed them when they have time, not on a given schedule. Wash them for the first time just before you load them on the trailer to go to the fair. Have the halters on them from day one because they can’t catch them with out one, adjust them only after the see they are starting to digging in their heads. I know that is on the worst case side and there are a lot of kids who fit in the middle some where. The more time you put into it the better the results should be. We have one family in our county that has a cool box and they are always at the top end, but I can guaranty that even with out the cool box their calves would still look hairy, the last few months before the fair he puts 2 to 3 hours in to each calf he has, he won champion at our fair and FFA champion at state. The cool box helps but with out the work you would a calf with long nasty hair. I believe that the lesson they learned is the more time you put in the more you will get out of it. If you want it to be a level playing ground this is what you would have to do: Find a ranch with uniform calves of the same age and breed, Have each kid draw a number for their turn to pick a calf, They would take these calves home and feed them out for their fair, The animals would be judged on ADG, appearance, handling, and yield grade. What you should end up with a bunch of calves that all look the same grade the same and weigh the same. They won’t be. Some kids will buy cheep feed, some kids will not feed on a schedule, and some kids won’t adjust the feed as the calf grows. They will keep them in a tiny pen and never take them out. Some kids will work with them everyday, feed them the best feed they can, rinse and blow out every day. In the End the same kids on average will still be at the top and the same kids will be at the bottom. We had one of those families that you are referring to, dad spends tons of money on cattle, buys a cool box, hires someone to work with the cattle. We beat them with a calf that cost less than a quarter of what theirs did last year. We fed ours right, my kid knew his animals faults and how to best hide them in the ring. (Not cheating just walking at a pace that did not exaggerate any problems, setting him up where he looked his best) The father lost it when their steer did not win, they did not come back this year, my guess is he embarrassed his kids so bad they did not want to come back. [/QUOTE]
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