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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1830395" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>Thanks for the responses y'all I appreciate them.</p><p>If this was 25 years ago and our local AI rep and good friend was still living I'd be seriously thinking going that route.</p><p>AI hasn't worked for us since they all started doing the time AI. We've averaged at best 50% conception down to 0%. So I've gave up on AI, I know lots of folks swear by it and I used to, but it's not practical for us anymore.</p><p>We kind of back ourselves into a corner, in that we really like some things about this bull, he is the best natured gentleman of a bull I've ever had thus far. </p><p></p><p>[USER=40418]@simme[/USER] I've used curve benders for many years via AI and purchased daughters. </p><p>In years passed we sold bred heifers mostly purchased with a few home raised. We had to use calving ease bulls as part of the requirements. About any of the bulls we used through AI or walking bulls were main stream popular curve benders or sons of them. There is a difference in those bulls and bulls bred more for as a neighbor used to say power bulls. </p><p>We've used those kinds of curve benders for years and the results for us are just average or lower across the board. In another recent thread I said it's like they are promoted as do it all bulls but then a lot them don't do real well in some areas and better in others. </p><p>It has lead to a lot of frustration for me, </p><p>Several times I've thought well I'm going to have top notch calves this go around only for them to be too short and fleshy, or just too plain, or just disappointing as far as weight etc.</p><p>[USER=24565]@Ebenezer[/USER] just described what I've been so frustrated about to a t. I've had some great looking big registered cows out of some of the most popular heaviest used bulls at the time bred to those kind of bulls only to be disappointed at weaning in the calves, but then by long yearling they start to look so much better and make 1500-1800 pound cows but then wean off give or take 50 pounds average around 500. </p><p>That's why I started crossing with Herefords and now venturing into Simmental bulls. Hoping to get some benefit from crossbreeding and sone more weight an volume from more of a powerful type bull.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1830395, member: 24816"] Thanks for the responses y'all I appreciate them. If this was 25 years ago and our local AI rep and good friend was still living I’d be seriously thinking going that route. AI hasn’t worked for us since they all started doing the time AI. We’ve averaged at best 50% conception down to 0%. So I’ve gave up on AI, I know lots of folks swear by it and I used to, but it’s not practical for us anymore. We kind of back ourselves into a corner, in that we really like some things about this bull, he is the best natured gentleman of a bull I’ve ever had thus far. [USER=40418]@simme[/USER] I’ve used curve benders for many years via AI and purchased daughters. In years passed we sold bred heifers mostly purchased with a few home raised. We had to use calving ease bulls as part of the requirements. About any of the bulls we used through AI or walking bulls were main stream popular curve benders or sons of them. There is a difference in those bulls and bulls bred more for as a neighbor used to say power bulls. We’ve used those kinds of curve benders for years and the results for us are just average or lower across the board. In another recent thread I said it’s like they are promoted as do it all bulls but then a lot them don’t do real well in some areas and better in others. It has lead to a lot of frustration for me, Several times I’ve thought well I’m going to have top notch calves this go around only for them to be too short and fleshy, or just too plain, or just disappointing as far as weight etc. [USER=24565]@Ebenezer[/USER] just described what I’ve been so frustrated about to a t. I’ve had some great looking big registered cows out of some of the most popular heaviest used bulls at the time bred to those kind of bulls only to be disappointed at weaning in the calves, but then by long yearling they start to look so much better and make 1500-1800 pound cows but then wean off give or take 50 pounds average around 500. That’s why I started crossing with Herefords and now venturing into Simmental bulls. Hoping to get some benefit from crossbreeding and sone more weight an volume from more of a powerful type bull. [/QUOTE]
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