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<blockquote data-quote="MikeJoel" data-source="post: 211281" data-attributes="member: 3783"><p>This is continued from</p><p><a href="http://cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21231" target="_blank">http://cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21231</a></p><p></p><p>Calf is a 50-55Lb heifer. Light brown with white spots.</p><p>Will put up a picture as soon as I can get one of her standing.</p><p>She is leaping and playing so must be pretty healthy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyway</p><p></p><p>Sister got up before me and was working on her when I got there. Turns out there was no clog or problem (like Milkmaid said; right again <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>Nothing was working still so we called the guy who sold it to us who also works a bit with cows. Said he would come over.</p><p>About 15 minutes later all but one teat was leaking milk so we tried to call him and tell him to not bother. He was already coming and when he got there went in and did a little milking to check it. We had already checked the milk and knew there was no infections so we weren't that worried.</p><p>The last teat started going.</p><p></p><p>Now here is a NEW problem.</p><p></p><p>The cow is now kicking like mad.</p><p>This morning we tried to control the kick (since it wasn't that bad it was more an irritated kick than a "I want to knock your head off"). Since we didn't have shackles we just took a lead rope and put it around the hock kept tention on it so if she kicked the person holding it would be able to restrain it. I know this probably seems foolish.</p><p>When this man got there he untied it and had one of use hold it's tale forcefully almost full up saying this would control the cow (now Ive never heard of that and it sure didnt seem to do much he almost got his head knocked off). When it still kicked he gave it a very hard punch/slap in the side (probably happened about 3 or 4 times).</p><p></p><p>Well tonight I wasn't going to repeat this since it seemed to have no effect. I wanted to try the lead rope again since the cow seemed much calmer with it and it worked to prevent a kick. Now it doesn't work. When she feels it on her leg she just starts kicking out behind and never puts the leg down so there is never a time to relax it and get control for either of us. I cant but feel the sudden extreme treatment this morning got an attitude change in the cow. Like I said though I may be completely off.</p><p></p><p>I refuse to let an animal have the best of me.</p><p>I dont want to get so mad as to start beating the cow. Isn't there a good way to stop this? Leg shackles as far as I can tell are out since now there is no way to get in to put them on.</p><p>I had an idea but dont know how to go about it. If I can keep the cow putting weight on that leg then she can't kick. I tried it with one hand on her back pulling while working but I cant keep doing that.</p><p></p><p>I know I sound like Im off my rocker and probably will be very embarrassed with myself once people give their replies.</p><p></p><p>I told others we should just leave her with the calf for a few days and then seperate them but I can't even be sure Im right about that anymore. I have read and been told before that some dairies dont bother the cow and calf for up to five days.</p><p></p><p>Sorry for such a silly post</p><p>Mike</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MikeJoel, post: 211281, member: 3783"] This is continued from [url]http://cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21231[/url] Calf is a 50-55Lb heifer. Light brown with white spots. Will put up a picture as soon as I can get one of her standing. She is leaping and playing so must be pretty healthy. Anyway Sister got up before me and was working on her when I got there. Turns out there was no clog or problem (like Milkmaid said; right again :-) ) Nothing was working still so we called the guy who sold it to us who also works a bit with cows. Said he would come over. About 15 minutes later all but one teat was leaking milk so we tried to call him and tell him to not bother. He was already coming and when he got there went in and did a little milking to check it. We had already checked the milk and knew there was no infections so we weren't that worried. The last teat started going. Now here is a NEW problem. The cow is now kicking like mad. This morning we tried to control the kick (since it wasn't that bad it was more an irritated kick than a "I want to knock your head off"). Since we didn't have shackles we just took a lead rope and put it around the hock kept tention on it so if she kicked the person holding it would be able to restrain it. I know this probably seems foolish. When this man got there he untied it and had one of use hold it's tale forcefully almost full up saying this would control the cow (now Ive never heard of that and it sure didnt seem to do much he almost got his head knocked off). When it still kicked he gave it a very hard punch/slap in the side (probably happened about 3 or 4 times). Well tonight I wasn't going to repeat this since it seemed to have no effect. I wanted to try the lead rope again since the cow seemed much calmer with it and it worked to prevent a kick. Now it doesn't work. When she feels it on her leg she just starts kicking out behind and never puts the leg down so there is never a time to relax it and get control for either of us. I cant but feel the sudden extreme treatment this morning got an attitude change in the cow. Like I said though I may be completely off. I refuse to let an animal have the best of me. I dont want to get so mad as to start beating the cow. Isn't there a good way to stop this? Leg shackles as far as I can tell are out since now there is no way to get in to put them on. I had an idea but dont know how to go about it. If I can keep the cow putting weight on that leg then she can't kick. I tried it with one hand on her back pulling while working but I cant keep doing that. I know I sound like Im off my rocker and probably will be very embarrassed with myself once people give their replies. I told others we should just leave her with the calf for a few days and then seperate them but I can't even be sure Im right about that anymore. I have read and been told before that some dairies dont bother the cow and calf for up to five days. Sorry for such a silly post Mike [/QUOTE]
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