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EAGLE-94

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After reading through some of the posts on the topic of Being Angus or not I have a question. Are the Amercican consumer confident enough to choose what to beleave and what not to? I have an education and have taken classes on selection and care. I feel I can pick out good looking beef for an enjoyable experience. Is this an instance of a real shfting or is is an instance of other jumping o nthe band wagon to a point were the whole CAB program must be changed.
 
EAGLE-94":3dnwquv0 said:
After reading through some of the posts on the topic of Being Angus or not I have a question. Are the Amercican consumer confident enough to choose what to beleave and what not to? I have an education and have taken classes on selection and care. I feel I can pick out good looking beef for an enjoyable experience. Is this an instance of a real shfting or is is an instance of other jumping o nthe band wagon to a point were the whole CAB program must be changed.
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Why would they even consider changing the program????

The Angus people came up with CAB too sell Angus bulls and cows. According to a chart Mike posted in the other string 47% of commodity beef DNA tests as Angus. The Simmental breed is registering Simmental crossed to Angus cows as Simangus, the Gelbvieh assn is registering Angus cross cows as Balancers, the Limousin Assn is registering Angus cross cows as Lim-flex, Brangus breeders are crossing their cows too Angus too produce Super Angus, and even some Hereford breeders have formed their own association too register Hereford, Angus cross cattle as Black Herefords. Most of the semen sold is Angus (by a very large margin). At this point, the only way Angus can really increase market share is to encourage commercial farms that already use Angus heavy too stop crossbreeding. Angus has always been a major breed; but CAB has made the Angus breed the DOMINANT beef breed. Angus is very very close too being as big as Hereford was when Hereford was the king. While registrations, transfers, and members are increasing I don't expect to see any major changes.
 
EAGLE-94":2kq8lfqp said:
After reading through some of the posts on the topic of Being Angus or not I have a question. Are the Amercican consumer confident enough to choose what to beleave and what not to? I have an education and have taken classes on selection and care. I feel I can pick out good looking beef for an enjoyable experience. Is this an instance of a real shfting or is is an instance of other jumping o nthe band wagon to a point were the whole CAB program must be changed.
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Seems like they choose McDonalds.
 
I don't thinkthey have see there last day by far. But I was wanting to know about the missleading of consumers. Usually when it happens you here about people getting into trouble. Seemed a little fishy about the DNA but I want what I pay for. I hate to ride the dence, thats how it goes here in the west. usually hurts since ther aren't many fences.
 
EAGLE, you've been hoodwinked by a few loudly, stongly and wrongly opinionated posters on this board into thinking CAB uses deceptive
practices. CAB hasn't deceived anybody that cares enough to read their requirements. Everything about CAB is on the table for your inspection. CAB cannot regulate whether a restaurant advertises 100% angus when actually it is not. Further, I don't think much interest will be stirred in the public about whether or not they are actually getting 100% angus as advertised (by restaurants, chain stores,etc.) or not. The vast majority of consumers couldn't care less.
 
The mistake American Angus Association made several years ago is that they didn't incorporate a hybrid registry into their database. If they would have, all of these hybrids now being touted as "Limmflex," "Balancers," "Optimizers" by all these smaller breed associations would have fallen -- because of their market clout -- under the perview of AAA. Politics got in the way, however, and the main focus of the angus association is registering purebred cattle... no doubt if they would have been more accepting of hybrids when they first started emerging, the angus association would be registered a half million cattle a year, and not 350,000.
 
Shorthornguy":3gn3im49 said:
Angus are good cows. CAB is decieving the public. The breed of the future is Shorthorn x Red Angus. Thanks to CAB trying to fool the public, Black Angus has seen it day.
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The fact that you think a red angus cross is going to make any difference is rediculous. Red or black. Angus is Angus. They actually originated as the same. In the beginning, Purebred Aberdeen Angus could have been red or black. Hugh Watson of Keillor was actually the one who decided that the official breed of aberdeen angus should be black. Quite possibly if he would have decided differently, everyone on here would be bashing your beloved Red Angus! The fact that people like Black angus is a trend. Red Angus are going to produce a new trend of consumers. "Exuse me sir, but can you tell me if the steer that made my steak was read or black?" All the CAB does is give people a sense that they are getting a quality product. The only way to defeat that is to have BLACK angus start making a poor product. As long as quality meat is produced by this breed, you will not find a trend of a new more successful breed.
 
Its the shorts attemp to get back some of thier dignity that was taken by the Main Anjou. I hope they do not try and ruin the RA breed.
 
THere is no need for a crossbred registry IMO! Everything else mongrelizes, besides then it might as well be like all the other breeds. Angus cattle are certainly not perfect but they do a lot of things rights, so it's better to have other breeds duplicate.....it's the easiest form of flattery!
 

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