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<blockquote data-quote="rwtherefords" data-source="post: 94653" data-attributes="member: 778"><p>So Texan, your rebuttal to my opinion seems to be saying there is no place for the Charolais cow in a commercial herd in your opinion. I don't see a noticable difference in the effeciency of the Charolais cow vs. others, but then again, I'm not in Texas where pasture isn't as plentiful. As far as the 80 - 90 pound Charolais cross calf goes, I haven't had that experience. Are you really running around the Texas ranch weighing each calf the day it is born? I know that each calf <strong>here</strong> gets weighed the day it's born, but I don't have the acreage to cover that a Texas operation would require. Anyway, My Hereford bulls calves average 82lbs. The heifers average 79lbs and the bulls average 86lbs. I also put my Hereford bull with my Charolais and get 98 - 102lb. bull calves. The difference between the highest weighing hereford bull calves of ~92lbs. and the Charolais cross bull calves of 98 - 102lbs. is 6 - 10lbs., which is very close to the Angus EPD adjustment table prediction (Charolais +7.1lbs over Herefords). Since I have so much data on my Hereford bull, I attribute the higher weighing calves in the Charolais crosses to the Charolais influence and it seems to be supported by the Angus association data as well.</p><p></p><p>Also, I've only had to pull 1 calf in the past 15 years and it was a Charolais cross. It was huge and the cow was unable to turn it for correct delivery.</p><p></p><p>Your previous post would have been just as effective without the slam against the Herefords. Yes, my Herefords can have 80 - 90 lb. calves just fine. If you're really getting 80 - 90 lb. calves from you Charolais bull, great! That's not what people get around here, and I was just sharing an opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rwtherefords, post: 94653, member: 778"] So Texan, your rebuttal to my opinion seems to be saying there is no place for the Charolais cow in a commercial herd in your opinion. I don't see a noticable difference in the effeciency of the Charolais cow vs. others, but then again, I'm not in Texas where pasture isn't as plentiful. As far as the 80 - 90 pound Charolais cross calf goes, I haven't had that experience. Are you really running around the Texas ranch weighing each calf the day it is born? I know that each calf [b]here[/b] gets weighed the day it's born, but I don't have the acreage to cover that a Texas operation would require. Anyway, My Hereford bulls calves average 82lbs. The heifers average 79lbs and the bulls average 86lbs. I also put my Hereford bull with my Charolais and get 98 - 102lb. bull calves. The difference between the highest weighing hereford bull calves of ~92lbs. and the Charolais cross bull calves of 98 - 102lbs. is 6 - 10lbs., which is very close to the Angus EPD adjustment table prediction (Charolais +7.1lbs over Herefords). Since I have so much data on my Hereford bull, I attribute the higher weighing calves in the Charolais crosses to the Charolais influence and it seems to be supported by the Angus association data as well. Also, I've only had to pull 1 calf in the past 15 years and it was a Charolais cross. It was huge and the cow was unable to turn it for correct delivery. Your previous post would have been just as effective without the slam against the Herefords. Yes, my Herefords can have 80 - 90 lb. calves just fine. If you're really getting 80 - 90 lb. calves from you Charolais bull, great! That's not what people get around here, and I was just sharing an opinion. [/QUOTE]
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