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<blockquote data-quote="stocky" data-source="post: 94617" data-attributes="member: 1150"><p>farmhand, when i get a young bull, i put him in a pen and feed him grain and get him used to me for a month or so before i turn him out. that may have something to do with why my bulls are gentle. cows and bulls are completely different and it might only be because of the way i handle them. each time i have had purebred cattle, after the first calf that they have for me, i end up getting rid of them. purebred dispositions have been high headed and difficult and they virtually never give enough milk to raise calves the size that my crossbreds raise. i know there are exceptions to these, but i have only owned the ones that are hard to work with and dont milk. as far as herefords go, i own and have owned some really fine hereford cross cows that raise huge calves out of charlois bulls. you have to be very selective to get milky herefords. i have not seen too much good luck with hereford bulls on white cows because the hereford bull tends to put too much depth in the calf and it has a deep belly and gets knocked alot of money when it is sold. the hereford cow and charlois bull will raise the top of the line yellow/white face calf. the calf will much more closely mirror it's father than its mother and that is why you can use smaller mixed cows that give milk to get a great calf if you use a charlois bull. to get the top of the line calf raiser, put a hereford bull with holstein cows-----but with holstein heifer baby calves worth 500-700 dollars, no one wants a beef bull with their holsteins right now</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stocky, post: 94617, member: 1150"] farmhand, when i get a young bull, i put him in a pen and feed him grain and get him used to me for a month or so before i turn him out. that may have something to do with why my bulls are gentle. cows and bulls are completely different and it might only be because of the way i handle them. each time i have had purebred cattle, after the first calf that they have for me, i end up getting rid of them. purebred dispositions have been high headed and difficult and they virtually never give enough milk to raise calves the size that my crossbreds raise. i know there are exceptions to these, but i have only owned the ones that are hard to work with and dont milk. as far as herefords go, i own and have owned some really fine hereford cross cows that raise huge calves out of charlois bulls. you have to be very selective to get milky herefords. i have not seen too much good luck with hereford bulls on white cows because the hereford bull tends to put too much depth in the calf and it has a deep belly and gets knocked alot of money when it is sold. the hereford cow and charlois bull will raise the top of the line yellow/white face calf. the calf will much more closely mirror it's father than its mother and that is why you can use smaller mixed cows that give milk to get a great calf if you use a charlois bull. to get the top of the line calf raiser, put a hereford bull with holstein cows-----but with holstein heifer baby calves worth 500-700 dollars, no one wants a beef bull with their holsteins right now [/QUOTE]
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