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So, what do you all think about this little protest? I'm glad our Constitution spells out his right to express himself, but I also believe he has the right to go find another country that suits him better. We are far from a perfect nation, but I don't see anyone tying banana leaves together to try and float from Florida to Cuba.
 
This reminds me a bit of a vocal group anybody remember the Dixie Chicks? He certainly has a right to protest but his fans have just as much of a right to turn away from him. All those huge checks the poor deprived fella has been receiving might just end. Again we live in a country that gives its citizens a right to be as wrong as they want to be. But they need to be prepared to face the fall out of their actions, and it could be expensive.

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This was a discussion at work this morning. Truthfully, it didn't anger us, it's more of what's expected today. Its not like we don't see it at other events. Go to a high school football game and look around during the National Anthem. I believe its more of the way the generation after generation of entitlement ideals are leading us. I don't believe for a minute it was a protest. He was just plain A$$ to lazy to get off the bench and when questioned about it, a protest is what first came to his mind as an excuse. If he was generally protesting, I'd like to see what community project, charitable donations etc., that he's done with time or his millions of dollars. His actions are no different than the fans sitting in the stadium that are walking around or sitting during the National Anthem. Worse yet is a lot of them are there with their kids, teaching them that the National Anthem is just an inconvenience of 2 minutes before a sporting event.
 
Coaches like Tom Landry are dearly missed. He would have handled this. We saw him handle many things over his duration.
 
I had to look this morning to see exactly what he was protesting about. It is his right, and a natural and unalienable right at that, but I think he could have found a better way of doing it for sure. I am not one to tell anyone they should leave the country if they are not happy here. They need to work to make it better or keep it good--whatever the case may be. The day will most likely come when some point is reached where we ourselves are very unhappy with things, and I'd rather stay & fight to right the ship than abandon it, and I ain't gonna listen to anyone telling me I need to leave.
 
backhoeboogie":2gvoayqf said:
Coaches like Tom Landry are dearly missed. He would have handled this. We saw him handle many things over his duration.

While I don't believe that his protest is just, forcing someone to stand for something they "don't believe in" makes us no better than the Soviets or North Koreans. If you believe in freedom, then you believe in his freedom to "protest" even if it makes him look like an idiot.
 
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Bestoutwest":1y8ul9dk said:
backhoeboogie":1y8ul9dk said:
Coaches like Tom Landry are dearly missed. He would have handled this. We saw him handle many things over his duration.

While I don't believe that his protest is just, forcing someone to stand for something they "don't believe in" makes us no better than the Soviets or North Koreans. If you believe in freedom, then you believe in his freedom to "protest" even if it makes him look like an idiot.
but i believe the coach and team owner have the right to handle their team as they see fit and if thats giving him the choice to stand or be fired thats well within their rights
 
ez14":3c1229fo said:
Bestoutwest":3c1229fo said:
backhoeboogie":3c1229fo said:
Coaches like Tom Landry are dearly missed. He would have handled this. We saw him handle many things over his duration.

While I don't believe that his protest is just, forcing someone to stand for something they "don't believe in" makes us no better than the Soviets or North Koreans. If you believe in freedom, then you believe in his freedom to "protest" even if it makes him look like an idiot.
but i believe the coach and team owner have the right to handle their team as they see fit and if thats giving him the choice to stand or be fired thats well within their rights

They'll never fire him because he signed a contract guaranteeing him $11.9M. They'd rather use him, no matter how much of a chump he is, so they can win and make money. There are no morals in the NFL, this is how they have gotten to where they're at. They keep murderers, wife beaters and child abusers around. What do they expect?

The part of this whole thing that makes him look even more foolish is that he wore a Fidel Castro shirt while explaining his stance on inequality. Blew my mind, that move.
 
Bestoutwest":1evlgz4a said:
backhoeboogie":1evlgz4a said:
Coaches like Tom Landry are dearly missed. He would have handled this. We saw him handle many things over his duration.

While I don't believe that his protest is just, forcing someone to stand for something they "don't believe in" makes us no better than the Soviets or North Koreans. If you believe in freedom, then you believe in his freedom to "protest" even if it makes him look like an idiot.
The Soviets would have sent him to Siberia never to be heard of again. The Koreans would have just shot his azz and fed him to the dogs. Freedom of speech also comes with responsibilities as well as potential consequences.
 
TexasBred":2d3cymrd said:
The Soviets would have sent him to Siberia never to be heard of again. The Koreans would have just shot his azz and fed him to the dogs. Freedom of speech also comes with responsibilities as well as potential consequences.

You're completely correct on his punishment in those other countries. My point was that forced patriotism is not true patriotism. It's situations like this that show the true splendor of the US. We are allowed to show our stupidity and there will be no severe ramifications (ie death or imprisonment).
 
Hoping that the guard and center pick up on a linebacker blitzing and miss blocking him and the linebacker rips his F ing head off.
 
Bestoutwest":24qhl9vn said:
forced patriotism is not true patriotism. It's situations like this that show the true splendor of the US.

That's the truth right there. I have never even heard of the guy until yesterday. I don't care if he stands in honor or flips everybody off while it's playing. Of all the things going on in the world and this is what gets people mad?
 
I do think he had the right to sit there, I was ok with it until the interview and his reasoning that really bothered me. So in my protest ill not watch anymore NFL football, first game I ever missed watching the Titans was Saturday. Reasoning for that is when I put my uniform on the only belief I can have is there's, because I represent them, same with the NFL and him for me.
 
Craig Miller":4klc78d8 said:
Bestoutwest":4klc78d8 said:
forced patriotism is not true patriotism. It's situations like this that show the true splendor of the US.

That's the truth right there. I have never even heard of the guy until yesterday. I don't care if he stands in honor or flips everybody off while it's playing. Of all the things going on in the world and this is what gets people mad?

Makes me mad. I agree that's his right. But that doesn't mean I have to approve. I view it as Divide and Conquer. There is division in this country and he's adding fuel to a fire that is on the verge of being out of control. This nation was founded with the principle of unity being one of its integral fundamentals.
 
Bestoutwest":2txtb57q said:
backhoeboogie":2txtb57q said:
Coaches like Tom Landry are dearly missed. He would have handled this. We saw him handle many things over his duration.

While I don't believe that his protest is just, forcing someone to stand for something they "don't believe in" makes us no better than the Soviets or North Koreans. If you believe in freedom, then you believe in his freedom to "protest" even if it makes him look like an idiot.

It is not his freedom that annoys me. It is more his attitude and ungratefulness.
 
Being an amateur (or arm chair) psychiatrist, I think he is over compensating for being insecure in his blackness. He is half white/black, raised by white parents. He wants to identify as black, so he thinks (poor choices in my opinion) adopting some black causes deepens his blackness.
 
I just listened to Chuck Berry sing Johnny B Good on U-Tube. From 1958. I understood every word in the song.
 
I have stood for the Canadaian national anthem many times. Not out alligience to Canada, but out of respect. Why? Because that's what polite people do.
 
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