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<blockquote data-quote="ALK3BC4" data-source="post: 747142" data-attributes="member: 14043"><p>Thank you all again for your helpful information.</p><p></p><p>The Hoyt situation was definitely a mess, although unfortunately a lot of the investors were middle class wage earners who thought it was a legit operation that would be a low-cash retirement investment (or so they argued).</p><p></p><p>I was relying on just the basic economics because the bulk of my analysis is not on any specific breed or breeder (whether purebred or commercial), but just on the investment structure of no upfront cash, debt assumption, and pass-through losses in the initial years that would result in tax savings (relying on eventual gain down the road when the herds were liquidated-essentially a tax deferral structure). Where the figures I'm looking for come into play is just working a hypothetical example through the initial years of operation to see if investors would get to recognize their losses under the tax code-therefore I think I can work with what you have all given me or pointed me to. </p><p></p><p>But is what you are all saying that while you could get about $600 for a 500 pound heifer on the commercial market, you could fetch a lot more if it were a purebred operation?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ALK3BC4, post: 747142, member: 14043"] Thank you all again for your helpful information. The Hoyt situation was definitely a mess, although unfortunately a lot of the investors were middle class wage earners who thought it was a legit operation that would be a low-cash retirement investment (or so they argued). I was relying on just the basic economics because the bulk of my analysis is not on any specific breed or breeder (whether purebred or commercial), but just on the investment structure of no upfront cash, debt assumption, and pass-through losses in the initial years that would result in tax savings (relying on eventual gain down the road when the herds were liquidated-essentially a tax deferral structure). Where the figures I'm looking for come into play is just working a hypothetical example through the initial years of operation to see if investors would get to recognize their losses under the tax code-therefore I think I can work with what you have all given me or pointed me to. But is what you are all saying that while you could get about $600 for a 500 pound heifer on the commercial market, you could fetch a lot more if it were a purebred operation? [/QUOTE]
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