bluegoose 1
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I would like to know if any one can tell what kind of clover that I have. It has a purple spot on each pedal Thanks for the info George
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1982vett
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Is the spot heart shaped? Not sure but I'm thinking it is actually a medic. Have some like it around here, just can't find an ID right now.
agmantoo
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Black medic pics can be seen here
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... s%3Disch:1
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... s%3Disch:1
1982vett
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How about this one?
Seedpod is a lot like Burr Clover except it isn't a flat round. It is more like a ball. Leaf is quit a bit larger and has the "heart" shape marking.
Seedpod is a lot like Burr Clover except it isn't a flat round. It is more like a ball. Leaf is quit a bit larger and has the "heart" shape marking.
Hop clover (a medic)1982vett":1v9kx0x0 said:How about this one?
Seedpod is a lot like Burr Clover except it isn't a flat round. It is more like a ball. Leaf is quit a bit larger and has the "heart" shape marking.
1982vett
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I don't know Dun. The leaf is kind of large and the flower is pretty small compaired to the hop clovers I've looked at. I'll agree, I think it i a medic and have found reference that to the spot on some bur medics. Just no pictures of a leaf with the spot. Flower and stems are very similar. I just can't find the link to the one I know I've seen before.
Doesn't really make any difference to me. Just wondering if this is similar to the one Bluegoose is trying to ID.
Doesn't really make any difference to me. Just wondering if this is similar to the one Bluegoose is trying to ID.
bird dog
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Vett
I also have a lot of this one. I farm in the black soil in central texas so I assumed it to be a medic but have not found out the true name. Is it a native?
I also have a lot of this one. I farm in the black soil in central texas so I assumed it to be a medic but have not found out the true name. Is it a native?
agmantoo
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I found this description but no pic so I am not positive with the ID. I have never seen this legume and I am curious if it has any significant forage use.
Burr medic leaves are almost hairless. The leaflets are wide and rather flat at the top, and sometimes have purple and white flecks on the upper surface or a small purple inverted V mark at the base of the leaf
Burr medic leaves are almost hairless. The leaflets are wide and rather flat at the top, and sometimes have purple and white flecks on the upper surface or a small purple inverted V mark at the base of the leaf
novatech
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I have counted at least 5 varieties of medic on my place, along with sweet clover. I don,t know if there are even names for all the different medics.bird dog":3bc3dtw6 said:
1982vett
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novatech":3ja85edb said:
Yes bird dog, it is native or at least it didn't come in anything I planted. It has been around for years. Just never really paid any attention to it until this thread started.
Novatech, I'm beginning to think it is a conspiracy how how the extension services pound the table about planting legumes. I have caved in and planted Ball Clover and Apache Arrowleaf and Yucchi over the past 5-6 years. With the exception of this year, I never had anything to show for my expense. Weather being the factor. But I can walk the pastures and find all kinds of legumes. This one that I believe to be Persian Clover is the most common.
The photo is several years old, but this year with the grass being so sparse, it is like carpet. Never planted it, it is just here. Also have quite a bit of deer vetch down under along with a scattering of Calie Pea. Beginning to wonder why I'm so intent on planting something that doesn't want to grow. :lol2: I guess I'm going to blame Jogee.
If he hadn't post pictures of his crimson...... :lol:Kingfisher
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Hi. Where are you located? Thanks in advance. I am in Austin but the farm is near Goldwaitebird dog":3gf3g6rz said:
bluegoose 1
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The picture that 1982 vette sent in is what I have. I'm located in north east Texas. Thanks for the help
George
George
novatech
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I did the same for a couple of years. I talked to a guy with TAMU that said I was wasting my money. If you have native then it would be hard to justify the expense on the little extra gain I would get with the clover I planted. That's a few hundred bucks a year I no longer spend.1982vett":1t8xwt4n said:novatech":1t8xwt4n said:
Yes bird dog, it is native or at least it didn't come in anything I planted. It has been around for years. Just never really paid any attention to it until this thread started.
Novatech, I'm beginning to think it is a conspiracy how how the extension services pound the table about planting legumes. I have caved in and planted Ball Clover and Apache Arrowleaf and Yucchi over the past 5-6 years. With the exception of this year, I never had anything to show for my expense. Weather being the factor. But I can walk the pastures and find all kinds of legumes. This one that I believe to be Persian Clover is the most common.
The photo is several years old, but this year with the grass being so sparse, it is like carpet. Never planted it, it is just here. Also have quite a bit of deer vetch down under along with a scattering of Calie Pea. Beginning to wonder why I'm so intent on planting something that doesn't want to grow. :lol2: I guess I'm going to blame Jogee.
Vett- I think what you posted is probably Jemalong barrel medic.
Pics:
http://www.sardi.sa.gov.au/pastures/ann ... r_friendly
Completely agree that to be economically feasible, legumes have to reseed on their own. Here in south-central/south texas Burr medic seems to do best (maybe due to drought tolerance?). I see it all over the place around Austin and San Antonio (on roadside, non-overgrazed pasture, and especially lawns :lol: ).
http://www.pogueagri.com/
These guys sell Jemalong and two types of Burr (but no Jemalong pics).
Pics:
http://www.sardi.sa.gov.au/pastures/ann ... r_friendly
Completely agree that to be economically feasible, legumes have to reseed on their own. Here in south-central/south texas Burr medic seems to do best (maybe due to drought tolerance?). I see it all over the place around Austin and San Antonio (on roadside, non-overgrazed pasture, and especially lawns :lol: ).
http://www.pogueagri.com/
These guys sell Jemalong and two types of Burr (but no Jemalong pics).
bird dog
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Kingfisher
I am about half way between Waco and Mexia a few miles off 84. I also have a place close to Hubbard that is sandy loam
and red clay. It is a lot easier to work.
Novatech,
This is what we are attempting on this place. Improve what we got and kill off the crap the sucks the water out of the soil. This is my third piece of property we are working on. It is a multi-year process. My wife says I am chemical dependent.
I am about half way between Waco and Mexia a few miles off 84. I also have a place close to Hubbard that is sandy loam
and red clay. It is a lot easier to work.
Novatech,
This is what we are attempting on this place. Improve what we got and kill off the crap the sucks the water out of the soil. This is my third piece of property we are working on. It is a multi-year process. My wife says I am chemical dependent.
