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<blockquote data-quote="SRBeef" data-source="post: 565037" data-attributes="member: 7509"><p>First of all I want to thank you for your replies. One thing about this forum is that it is a lot less expensive to learn here than by making all of the mistakes myself.</p><p></p><p>Second of all - please do not hesitate to reply with your honest opinion. Do not worry about hurting my feelings. I've been married to the same woman for 37 years and we have 8 kids so I can take it. However I am new to cattle and would like to learn as much as possible without repeating all the newcomer mistakes. I can't learn if you experienced folks tiptoe around the truth!</p><p></p><p>As far as the bull goes, I can understand the points you folks make on him. </p><p></p><p>However my #1 criteria for choosing a bull is calving ease. I travel a lot and just can't count on being here when at calving time. These girls have to calve on their own or they are going to cull themselves. I have some good neighbors who keep an eye on them when I can't but realistically these cows have to calve on their own. This bull has great calving ease numbers and genetics.</p><p></p><p>#2 criteria for a bull is his disposition. Everybody here is in tight quarters in rotational grazing and I don't want a bull with an attitude. I know and practice not turning my back on him. I'm in this to make money but in general this also needs to be fun for me and the cattle. Bulls with a bad attitude are not fun. </p><p></p><p>#3 there is no way I can go AI and I also want a bull who is from a lineup raised to do well on grass.</p><p></p><p>#4 there is no way I can spend high $$ on a bull with my herd size. This was a reasonably priced registered bull. I hope to be able to get most or all of my money out of him when sold so I can buy another. Maybe can spend a bit more next season if I can roll them at a fair price.</p><p></p><p>I would also like a bull with good conformation and maybe could have found a better one. But as you see I am asking for a lot here. We'll see how his calves come out.</p><p></p><p>Thank you for the kind words above about their care. Here is another picture showing them in the clover yesterday with the RH end one being an April calf now a steer for about 3 weeks. This steer 08-20 was born in April and is averaging about 3.2 pounds gain per day. The 2 BWF yearling heifers will be processed this fall.</p><p></p><p>The other pictured I just snapped from the tractor while dragging the adjacent pasture they just left. The cow on the right is one of my favorites. These BWF steer calves were bred to a friends Angus bull last summer and are also April calves with ADG over 3 lb. I was trying to see if I wanted to go with an Angus or Hereford bull. I've decided to go all Hereford for my situation.</p><p></p><p>3way I was not aware that there was such a thing as a "bloat block" and yes I'll pick up a couple asap. Where should I put them for best effect: in the pasture or near the waterer (in the distance by the guard rail)?</p><p></p><p>Thanks again.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1[/ATTACH]</p><p></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SRBeef, post: 565037, member: 7509"] First of all I want to thank you for your replies. One thing about this forum is that it is a lot less expensive to learn here than by making all of the mistakes myself. Second of all - please do not hesitate to reply with your honest opinion. Do not worry about hurting my feelings. I've been married to the same woman for 37 years and we have 8 kids so I can take it. However I am new to cattle and would like to learn as much as possible without repeating all the newcomer mistakes. I can't learn if you experienced folks tiptoe around the truth! As far as the bull goes, I can understand the points you folks make on him. However my #1 criteria for choosing a bull is calving ease. I travel a lot and just can't count on being here when at calving time. These girls have to calve on their own or they are going to cull themselves. I have some good neighbors who keep an eye on them when I can't but realistically these cows have to calve on their own. This bull has great calving ease numbers and genetics. #2 criteria for a bull is his disposition. Everybody here is in tight quarters in rotational grazing and I don't want a bull with an attitude. I know and practice not turning my back on him. I'm in this to make money but in general this also needs to be fun for me and the cattle. Bulls with a bad attitude are not fun. #3 there is no way I can go AI and I also want a bull who is from a lineup raised to do well on grass. #4 there is no way I can spend high $$ on a bull with my herd size. This was a reasonably priced registered bull. I hope to be able to get most or all of my money out of him when sold so I can buy another. Maybe can spend a bit more next season if I can roll them at a fair price. I would also like a bull with good conformation and maybe could have found a better one. But as you see I am asking for a lot here. We'll see how his calves come out. Thank you for the kind words above about their care. Here is another picture showing them in the clover yesterday with the RH end one being an April calf now a steer for about 3 weeks. This steer 08-20 was born in April and is averaging about 3.2 pounds gain per day. The 2 BWF yearling heifers will be processed this fall. The other pictured I just snapped from the tractor while dragging the adjacent pasture they just left. The cow on the right is one of my favorites. These BWF steer calves were bred to a friends Angus bull last summer and are also April calves with ADG over 3 lb. I was trying to see if I wanted to go with an Angus or Hereford bull. I've decided to go all Hereford for my situation. 3way I was not aware that there was such a thing as a "bloat block" and yes I'll pick up a couple asap. Where should I put them for best effect: in the pasture or near the waterer (in the distance by the guard rail)? Thanks again. [ATTACH type="full" alt="Drilled red clover into grass in WI the lineup 8-2-08E_IMG_2271.JPG"]1[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Drilled red clover into grass in WI calves 8-3-08_IMG_2321 cropped_1.jpg"]0[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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