I had some buddies, and their kids over tonight for a little practice. One of them told me that the aqha/clone controversy had been settled in court. I'm sure it's not over, nothing ever ends. That's not the point of this thread. I haven't decided how I feel about animal cloning. In the case of scamper-----------I'm sure that if I had owned him from a colt, he would be a completely different horse, with no real value. I would also think that if I bred a mare to his clone, the outcome would be the same. Living here in Ky the jockey club is king in certain circles. I would venture to say that there are many grade horses that could win the Ky derby. We'll never know. The point being genetics will only take you so far. The rest is training and connections------------thoughts anyone.