Child Sex laws messed up.

[aplusmnt]

In past we have discussed cases of child molesters that got only probation or 3 months in jail for molesting young little kids, one case he had been doing it for like 6 years.

But then you have cases like this one in Georgia were a 17 year old got 10 years and has served 3 for having oral sex with a 15 year old. They are trying to overturn it due to new law in Georgia but the Georgia Attorney General is trying to block it.

Something is messed up when a Senior in H.S. would get 10 years in prison for having oral sex with a girl two years younger. Teens that are same school age and might have started dating while in their school environment should never be going to prison over sex. I do not condone they be having sex but prison for sex between a sophomore and senior? No way!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19171577/

 

[flaboy?]

Hmmm, lets see. At 15 in Tennessee they have already had two or three kids if they live anywhere near Crowders place. :lol:

I agree with you aplusmnt. This ain't the 50's anymore. Kids are much more mature in that area than even 20 years ago. While I don't condone it, I sure understand how it happens.

I hope there is a statute of limitation on that "crime" or a bunch of folks are going to be in trouble. :shock:

 

[Lammie]

If I am not mistaken, the girl was white, so there's your answer. I am not condoning it either, but I think that the racial thing had more to do with it than anything. Disregarding the race issue: Should he have gotten the heck slapped outa him by his mother and possibly the girl's father? Yes. Should the girl's father have slapped the heck outa his daughter? I would say yes. Should a 15 year old girl be allowed to attend a party like that? No.

There's all kids of blame here. but not the kind of blame to send that young man to prison over.

 

[flaboy?]

Lammie, you are dead on. Had the guy been white. we would have never heard about it.

 

[Alice]

Lammie, you are exactly right.

Now, when that kid is released he will have lost 3 years of his life having been exposed to hardened criminals. The kid went in as an honor student, something you don't see a lot of anymore...black male honor students. What will he come out as? An angry, bitter young man, possibly? I pray not.

This whole thing is sickening.

Alice

 

[DrumRunner728]

I saw this on the news this morning and I was stunned. Ten years in prison for consentual sex? Teenagers of today aren't the teenagers of yesterday. Kids these days know a whole lot more and have experienced a whole lot more than I did at that age. Doesn't make what happened okay, but it sure seems a bit extreme to me.

 

[hurleyjd]

Wilson, 21, and five other male partygoers charged in the cases were black, as were the two teenage girls involved.

Above is a quote from an AP news story. Looks like all oaf them were Black.

 

[Lammie]

Then I must be thinking of another case. Just a little extreme if you ask me. But I wasn't there...

I still wonder about the wisdom of parents who allow their 15 year old to attend that kind of party. They probably didn't know about it. I wasn't allowed to date until I was 16. I could go out with groups of friends before that, but someone's mom was always dropping off and picking up. Small town and all, but my parents had a good idea where I was all the time, and if there was any doubt, my dad had an uncanny and embarrassing ability to find me.

 

[aplusmnt]

I think there should be like a 2 or 3 year rule with teens. Maybe after 15 years old if you are within 2 or 3 years of age and the sex was consenting then there would be no charges.

Many kids that go to school today date younger school mates. Then the older one graduates and they still date. I know of one case locally were this happened a few years ago and the kid ended up on the sex offender list. He will be on it his entire life, to this day I can go to the Kansas website and see his picture and address. All because he had sex with a girl he was allowed to date in H.S. but he turned 18 and she was not.

Use to Freshman were in Junior High, but now in this area Freshman are in H.S. so this offers even stronger possible problems. You have 17 year old (sometimes 18 year) and 14 year olds in school together. I think to teens if they are in same school they feel they are fair to date them. I think this offers more potential problems and wish it was back like it was when I was a kids. 7th, 8th and 9th together then 10th 11th and 12th together.

 

[Frankie]

And I think it weakens the value of the laws to identify youngsters who had sex with other youngsters alongside "true" sex offenders.

 

[cattleluvr18]

this happens all the time. it just doesnt get all the media like this is getting.

 

[3MR]

This is getting the media it is because the law was changed after he was convicted, but the district attorney wants him to serve the time regardless.

If he had actual sex with her he wouldnt have committed the crime. The original law was written to prevent this exact thing from happening, but it defined it as actual sexual intercoure, not oral. After he was convicted the state ammended the law to prevent it from occuring again.

So basically the state passed a law to prevent a kid from being procesuted for this exact thing, then the DA used a loophole int he law to prosecute the kid anyway. The states said foul and amended the law so it couldnt be done again, but this DA wants the kid to pay for a crime that was never intended to be a crime anyway.

Obviously this district attorney has a burr under his saddle for some reason.

 

[L Weir]

Then I must be thinking of another case. Just a little extreme if you ask me. But I wasn't there...

I still wonder about the wisdom of parents who allow their 15 year old to attend that kind of party. They probably didn't know about it. I wasn't allowed to date until I was 16. I could go out with groups of friends before that, but someone's mom was always dropping off and picking up. Small town and all, but my parents had a good idea where I was all the time, and if there was any doubt, my dad had an uncanny and embarrassing ability to find me.

Well maybe that is a prime example the rich( Hiltons) aren't the only parents out in the world who condone this kind of behavior. Bad role models have no boundaries so it seems. If that is what happened in this case.

As for teenagers growing up to fast, it seems to me that society has some to do with to a point. Schools are pushing students to do alot more things at earlier ages. I think is sends a mixed message to kids. Plus, in the urban homes parents are out working to keep up with the Jones so the kids are at home left to their own thing. JMO.

 

[Horticattleman]

Today i heard on the news that Texas is trying to make it law that repeat offenders of aggravated child molestation could be given the death penalty (i.e. second offence). Non aggravated ... automatic life without parole.

Kinda makes me wish we could drift towards our neighbors way of thinking!

 

[john250]

This has gone on since the beginning of time. It isn't new. If Ten years was the penalty, most of the male part of this board would be logging on from the joint.
:lol:

 

[Jogeephus]

I believe it had a lot to do with the drugs, alcohol and the filming of the train the boys pulled on a girl. The jury viewed the tape. Not good. I'm sure many on the jury couldn't fathom how a girl could do that - unless of course "those boys doped her". I am sure the girl *covering her arse* didn't take any blame cause she was doped up.

 

[Lammie]

There is a student I know who did a similar thing. I know her very well, and I know that she was attracted to the boy and had every intention of having intercourse with him. I stand around and I listen... And I know that it wasn't her first rodeo, if you read me. Still, when she got caught, and they did by her grandma, she said it was rape, and got the boy in a lot of trouble for a while. It kinda went away, so I don't know what the end result was, but I am in awe of how someone's life could be ruined like that.

My other issue is that this kind of thing robs the credibility of women and girls who are attacked and forced against their will, to have sex. That's the real shame here. We should save our anger and our punishment for real molestors and rapists. Every false accusation makes every real one that much less believable.

 

[Jogeephus]

I agree with you completely. I have seen several people lives ruined because someone was covering their hiny. I may not agree with what these KIDS did but I don't think its right for them to go to jail for 10 years. Lets use some common sense and save the beds for the people who need to be there and stay there.