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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 1529"><p>> Mack, I have a difficult time</p><p>> understanding why you say my</p><p>> opinion on one animal generating</p><p>> multi dollars for the check off</p><p>> doesn't hold water. My point was</p><p>> that a million head of cattle may</p><p>> generate 5-10 million dollars for</p><p>> the check off not just one</p><p>> million. The check off is a money</p><p>> hungry machine that just takes too</p><p>> many dollars out of the producers</p><p>> hands. My other concern is that</p><p>> saying that the multiple sale of</p><p>> one animal doesn't effect you or I</p><p>> but once may be tunnel vision on</p><p>> your part and mine too. We</p><p>> concentrate on how things affect</p><p>> each of personally and not on the</p><p>> big picture of how much money this</p><p>> takes from producers as a whole. I</p><p>> do appreciate your opinion and</p><p>> don't disagree with you except on</p><p>> this one point. Check offs are</p><p>> used in the ag commodity (crop )</p><p>> industry and unless the industry</p><p>> has a very vision oriented board</p><p>> of directors alot of funds are</p><p>> wasted or not used for the</p><p>> purpose(s) that they were</p><p>> intended. Just my opinion.</p><p></p><p>Mike</p><p></p><p>Some one in this series said that the program probably needs some fine tuning. I agree with that and your point is well taken. In an ideal world, (??) I would like to think that the 5-10 million dollars you talked about, would be used for bigger and better ads to promote OUR product. We both know that it will seldom work that way and we would be well served to be able to place some checks and balances on the system. When some one comes up with a plan to do that, I will be in line to support it. In the mean time, I do not want to throw out the baby with the bath water. We have a good system that is doing a good job of promoting our product. I understand and appreciate what you are saying about taking mega bucks out of the producers hands, but on a cow to cow basis, I only sell my calves one time. This spring, I sold some cow calf pairs and the cows were young. It cost me $2.00 per pair and that is all it will ever cost me. The cows may be sold 2 or 3 more times in their life time and we know the calves will be sold at least 4 or 5 more times. That is the decision of the new owners. We could exempt the feed lots from the program but why should he be exempt any more than the producer? We could exempt the producer that sells the calf for the first time but would that be fair to the backgrounder? My point is, when you talk about each animal producing multiple check off dollars, who gets the break? I am open to improvements in the system but we need to be sure they are quality improvements and not just eye wash and lip service to satisfy the mercenary desires of a few. I honestly believe, Mike, that you and I are on the same track, we just have a minor variance on this one point. One other consideration that has a bearing on this discussion. I believe that actors and athletes are way over paid, but the big names sell products whether it is shaving cream or steak. Just maybe,; those extra check off dollars are paying for the big names. Best regards,</p><p></p><p>Mack</p><p></p><p> <a href="mailto:MAPXP@FLASH.NET">MAPXP@FLASH.NET</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 1529"] > Mack, I have a difficult time > understanding why you say my > opinion on one animal generating > multi dollars for the check off > doesn't hold water. My point was > that a million head of cattle may > generate 5-10 million dollars for > the check off not just one > million. The check off is a money > hungry machine that just takes too > many dollars out of the producers > hands. My other concern is that > saying that the multiple sale of > one animal doesn't effect you or I > but once may be tunnel vision on > your part and mine too. We > concentrate on how things affect > each of personally and not on the > big picture of how much money this > takes from producers as a whole. I > do appreciate your opinion and > don't disagree with you except on > this one point. Check offs are > used in the ag commodity (crop ) > industry and unless the industry > has a very vision oriented board > of directors alot of funds are > wasted or not used for the > purpose(s) that they were > intended. Just my opinion. Mike Some one in this series said that the program probably needs some fine tuning. I agree with that and your point is well taken. In an ideal world, (??) I would like to think that the 5-10 million dollars you talked about, would be used for bigger and better ads to promote OUR product. We both know that it will seldom work that way and we would be well served to be able to place some checks and balances on the system. When some one comes up with a plan to do that, I will be in line to support it. In the mean time, I do not want to throw out the baby with the bath water. We have a good system that is doing a good job of promoting our product. I understand and appreciate what you are saying about taking mega bucks out of the producers hands, but on a cow to cow basis, I only sell my calves one time. This spring, I sold some cow calf pairs and the cows were young. It cost me $2.00 per pair and that is all it will ever cost me. The cows may be sold 2 or 3 more times in their life time and we know the calves will be sold at least 4 or 5 more times. That is the decision of the new owners. We could exempt the feed lots from the program but why should he be exempt any more than the producer? We could exempt the producer that sells the calf for the first time but would that be fair to the backgrounder? My point is, when you talk about each animal producing multiple check off dollars, who gets the break? I am open to improvements in the system but we need to be sure they are quality improvements and not just eye wash and lip service to satisfy the mercenary desires of a few. I honestly believe, Mike, that you and I are on the same track, we just have a minor variance on this one point. One other consideration that has a bearing on this discussion. I believe that actors and athletes are way over paid, but the big names sell products whether it is shaving cream or steak. Just maybe,; those extra check off dollars are paying for the big names. Best regards, Mack [email=MAPXP@FLASH.NET]MAPXP@FLASH.NET[/email] [/QUOTE]
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