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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1831259" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>Actually, you are dead wrong on that too. For starters, Black Hereford are not composites. No more than Simmental, Limousine, Gelbeiv and Charolais are. They are an improved version of Hereford. Much like today's black Simms are an improved version of the Simmental (Fleckveih) that first came here and are still bred in Europe. And today's American Charolais vs the cow-killers that first came here in the 60's. There are no two Bos Taurus breeds with less shared DNA than Angus and Hereford. There is more shared DNA between Continental breeds and Angus, and continental breeds and Hereford, than there is between Herf and Ang This is why the black baldy has been such a popular cross. It achieves maximum hybrid vigor. No 2 bos taurus breeds are further apart than Angus and Hereford. Angus and Black Hereford crosses have the same hybrid vigor, because Black Hereford and red Hereford have nearly the same DNA make up, About like Simental and Fleckveih. Bos Indicus cattle, have absolutely no shared DNA with any Bos Taurus breed, so that is why those crosses achieve the max hybrid vigor. Developing the Black Hereford has NOT<em> lost the hybrid vigor of Brahman/English or Continental cross.</em> Nor has it <em> lost the Continental/ English cross. </em>The best Brahma x bos taurus cross for maximum heterosis is Brah x Herf. 2nd best is Bra x shorthorn and 3rd best is Br x Angus. 4th is the 1st Continental on the Brahma cross scale, Br x Charolais . Brah x Black Hereford gives you the <em>exact</em> amount of heterosis as a Br x red Hereford does. If Black Herefords are "<em>Snake oil for black hair</em>." then Simmental, Lims, and Gelbs are too., maybe even more so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1831259, member: 40587"] Actually, you are dead wrong on that too. For starters, Black Hereford are not composites. No more than Simmental, Limousine, Gelbeiv and Charolais are. They are an improved version of Hereford. Much like today's black Simms are an improved version of the Simmental (Fleckveih) that first came here and are still bred in Europe. And today's American Charolais vs the cow-killers that first came here in the 60's. There are no two Bos Taurus breeds with less shared DNA than Angus and Hereford. There is more shared DNA between Continental breeds and Angus, and continental breeds and Hereford, than there is between Herf and Ang This is why the black baldy has been such a popular cross. It achieves maximum hybrid vigor. No 2 bos taurus breeds are further apart than Angus and Hereford. Angus and Black Hereford crosses have the same hybrid vigor, because Black Hereford and red Hereford have nearly the same DNA make up, About like Simental and Fleckveih. Bos Indicus cattle, have absolutely no shared DNA with any Bos Taurus breed, so that is why those crosses achieve the max hybrid vigor. Developing the Black Hereford has NOT[I] lost the hybrid vigor of Brahman/English or Continental cross.[/I] Nor has it [I] lost the Continental/ English cross. [/I]The best Brahma x bos taurus cross for maximum heterosis is Brah x Herf. 2nd best is Bra x shorthorn and 3rd best is Br x Angus. 4th is the 1st Continental on the Brahma cross scale, Br x Charolais . Brah x Black Hereford gives you the [I]exact[/I] amount of heterosis as a Br x red Hereford does. If Black Herefords are "[I]Snake oil for black hair[/I]." then Simmental, Lims, and Gelbs are too., maybe even more so. [/QUOTE]
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