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<blockquote data-quote="Victoria" data-source="post: 288344" data-attributes="member: 1258"><p>It all depends on the type of cattle you have. When I was a kid we had some real nuts. They weren't calm in the chute to begin with because they were wild animals. Being calm with a cow that is out to get you does not work. Prods were kept on hand and used but even then only when necessary. Using any tool that caused even minor pain without reason was not tolerated. Of course if those are the kinds of cattle that you have CS I would say sell them all now. As a beginner you don't want to deal with them. Why someone experienced would want to deal with them is beyond me too. :roll: </p><p></p><p>Now we have a whole different kind of herd. If you want to call them pets that's fine with me. I don't need a horse to chase them around for an entire day to get them in, I just call them. I don't need a bunch of guys with whips and prods to get them down the chute while cows are charging and bellering. I can move them by myself easily. I use a cane or twist tails. The real stubborn ones I don't prod or whip. It just makes them excited and an excited cow in a closed area becomes a dangerous cow. Besides, I don't want them to have a fear of the chute, just makes them harder to get in next time. Instead I grab an oat bucket and lead them up the chute. Laugh if you want but it takes less time than it used to, less stress for both me and the cows and I don't have to worry that some snorting cow is going to get me if I let my guard down. </p><p></p><p>I've dealt with both types of herds and now any cow that I can't manage easily can go live somewhere else. So my final advise CS is if you have a cow that needs the prod, sell the cow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Victoria, post: 288344, member: 1258"] It all depends on the type of cattle you have. When I was a kid we had some real nuts. They weren't calm in the chute to begin with because they were wild animals. Being calm with a cow that is out to get you does not work. Prods were kept on hand and used but even then only when necessary. Using any tool that caused even minor pain without reason was not tolerated. Of course if those are the kinds of cattle that you have CS I would say sell them all now. As a beginner you don't want to deal with them. Why someone experienced would want to deal with them is beyond me too. :roll: Now we have a whole different kind of herd. If you want to call them pets that's fine with me. I don't need a horse to chase them around for an entire day to get them in, I just call them. I don't need a bunch of guys with whips and prods to get them down the chute while cows are charging and bellering. I can move them by myself easily. I use a cane or twist tails. The real stubborn ones I don't prod or whip. It just makes them excited and an excited cow in a closed area becomes a dangerous cow. Besides, I don't want them to have a fear of the chute, just makes them harder to get in next time. Instead I grab an oat bucket and lead them up the chute. Laugh if you want but it takes less time than it used to, less stress for both me and the cows and I don't have to worry that some snorting cow is going to get me if I let my guard down. I've dealt with both types of herds and now any cow that I can't manage easily can go live somewhere else. So my final advise CS is if you have a cow that needs the prod, sell the cow. [/QUOTE]
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