Cattle & Elk

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I was just wondering if you people who raise cattle in places like Montana, Wyoming, Colorado etc...., places that have alot of elk. Do you have any types of problems with herds of elk grazing on your pastures or tearing down fences ?
 
Not me personally but understand it is quite a problem in Northern Arizona.

An elk eats almost as much as a cow and similar tastes so they can do some damage if feed is short. And I guess when drivers hit them it ca be a problem too. :lol:

I do like to see them we travel, though.
 
Stepper":1a75onn8 said:
I was just wondering if you people who raise cattle in places like Montana, Wyoming, Colorado etc...., places that have alot of elk. Do you have any types of problems with herds of elk grazing on your pastures or tearing down fences ?

We don't in the area we are in and I don't know about the tearing down fences, but the elk grazing pastures in the northern part of the state have wreaked havoc with Wyoming's brucellosis free certification - several herds in northern Wyoming have tested positive for brucellosis because of it, and our certification has been revoked.
 
How does it pass form the elk to cattle? I thought it was passed through saliva and such 'contact' transmission? I guess I'm wrong about that though.
 
A few years ago elk were reintroduced to my corner of Kentucky. They were monitored, vaccinated and quarantined before release so disease has not been a problem. My place is about 20 acres of bottom land and 180 acres of forested mountain completely fenced. Two years ago an elk cow showed up in April, stayed on the lower part of the mountain where she could graze the pasture, then moved up higher on the mountain in June where she raised a calf. She disappeared altogether in Nov. after the mountain vegetation died. She repeated the same process this year. In the spring she grazes with but not among the cattle and I have seen them chase her back up into the woods if she gets to close. She has done only minor damage to interior fencing. Seems she doesn't jump all that well. When she shows up in the spring I leave a gate open that allows her to go up the mountain. The cows don't seem to want to go up there so it has been no problem for me. Elk have not roamed Kentucky in more than 150 years so she is a novelty that I enjoy showing to my friends, most of whom are like me and had never seen a live elk before. She became used to me this past spring and would often browse within 20 yards of where I would be working. If you look at my photos in the photo gallery you can see some trail cam pictures of her and her calf from last year.
 
sidney411":311zufrv said:
How does it pass form the elk to cattle? I thought it was passed through saliva and such 'contact' transmission? I guess I'm wrong about that though.

Brucellosis is usually passed through the afterbirth in cattle, so I'm assuming that is also the case with the elk - but I could be wrong.
 
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Stepper":296nppk1 said:
I was just wondering if you people who raise cattle in places like Montana, Wyoming, Colorado etc...., places that have alot of elk. Do you have any types of problems with herds of elk grazing on your pastures or tearing down fences ?

not really had too much problem with them tearing down our fences (we have more of a problem with the antelope and whitetail doing the fence damage!!), but this last spring we had several hundred elk in our up and coming alfalfa fields...sure raised some issues there....they cross the highway to get to tour place and also raise "issues" with the semis and tourists!!

As for brucellosis...knock on wood...NO problem here yet!!
:shock: :shock: :shock:
 
If elk aren't in a hurry they seem to go over fences just fine. When they are in a panic is when they tear out fences. The first couple will jump the fence but about the third or fourth one forgets to jump. I have a pasture where the hunters got into the elk the last two years. By the time the elk got out of the field there was a hole in the fence about 300 feet long.
Dave
 
Some ranchers that raise alfalfa in the valley I live in get totally wiped out by elk some years. The DOW has finally started to pay them some crop damage money. A friend and I used to have the job of counting elk at night with a spot light to document elk numbers in the fields. That was a lot of fun. I have some great footage of big bucks and bulls on film. I have seen herds of up to 600 head. When a herd like that goes thru you're place it's time to fix some fence. We had some nice bucks in the hay field this mourning. If I get some pictures with my digital camera I'll try to post them.
 
I got some pictures of a couple fair bucks. I'm not sure if they are the two I had seen this mourning, they don't seem as big. I can't figure out how to get them from the photo gallery to here.
 
Ned Jr.

I was elk hunting last September near Silidia Colorado and herd tells about elk getting in alfalfa feilds like you are talking about. Is where what you are talking about anywhere in that area ?
 
Yeah that is what i mean. I just can not spell. I know what i mean but can not spell at all. :lol:

Well how about Villia Grove ? Know where that is ?
 
Stepper":27ty00q0 said:
I was just wondering if you people who raise cattle in places like Montana, Wyoming, Colorado etc...., places that have alot of elk. Do you have any types of problems with herds of elk grazing on your pastures or tearing down fences ?

they tend to come down from the hills during winter and tear up out newly seeded fields. after talking to wildlife management with no results, we decided to take matters into our own hands. We shot (with permission of course) the elk with shotguns (tough hide) and bottle rockets. Roman candles as well. We took shifts during the night driving the property with a spotlight to chase them away. Determined little boogers they are. Wreck fences like there not even there.
 
We used to have problems with elk getting into our hay yards. finally dad got some blood meal from D.N.R and scattered that around the bales. That worked.

The bad news is that dad left the remainder of the bag of bloodmeal in my garage.Its real good for attracting bears :lol:
 
frenchie":eyya7m42 said:
We used to have problems with elk getting into our hay yards. finally dad got some blood meal from D.N.R and scattered that around the bales. That worked.

The bad news is that dad left the remainder of the bag of bloodmeal in my garage.Its real good for attracting bears :lol:

frenchie-I thought bloodmeal was banned- could transmit BSE ;-)

Out here on the plains we have problems with them getting into wheat and hay fields and tearing down fences, too... Fish and Game sometimes tries scare guns and herding to keep them out of the fields- but I think the elk are winning the battle... To make up for it many have put their land in block management (F&G program where they pay landowners to allow open hunting) and some have gotten guides and outfitting licenses....
If you can't beat them- at least profit from them......
 

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