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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1831118" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>Yes there's quite a few there. I admit I haven't kept up with with the current bulls for while. Haven't AI'd any for about 10 years. </p><p>Several of those prefixes I'm not familiar with, maybe new or from there in Australia. </p><p>When I was looking the last time, ABS had only CC&7 that was a frame 7 and I really wanted to use him but there was bo semen available. I think I used a son Hoover Dam. He was possibly listed as a frame 6 I can't remember may have not been listed. His calves were real good but trended more towards the smaller side when mated to my cows. A finally found a daughter of CC&7 she was good but again took more after her dam I guess and her calves were similar.</p><p>We used a 6 frame BPF Special Focus on heifers that was a 6 frame and those calves were small, all along. </p><p>The last bull we used was PA Power Tool he was under 6 maybe 5.8 or something, couldn't find an available 6. </p><p>Good calves, liked them but we have trouble with getting good weaning weights and size, they mature at decent size and start to get looking better frame wise around yearlings. Maybe we just have defective cows. </p><p>At one point I had some 1800 pound registered Angus cows weaning off 450-500 Angus calves. By around 18 months the heifers were starting to look good and had some growth, the steers though when sold a little after weaning were small and always sold as fleshy. </p><p>When I crossed my cows with a larger framed Hereford or Limousin I got bigger framed calves that did better at weaning.</p><p>I realize you and lots of other folks use Angus and have some fine looking cattle that I would be mighty proud to have but for some reason mine always hit a low growth ceiling as calves through weaning. I don't have a logical answer for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1831118, member: 24816"] Yes there’s quite a few there. I admit I haven’t kept up with with the current bulls for while. Haven’t AI’d any for about 10 years. Several of those prefixes I’m not familiar with, maybe new or from there in Australia. When I was looking the last time, ABS had only CC&7 that was a frame 7 and I really wanted to use him but there was bo semen available. I think I used a son Hoover Dam. He was possibly listed as a frame 6 I can’t remember may have not been listed. His calves were real good but trended more towards the smaller side when mated to my cows. A finally found a daughter of CC&7 she was good but again took more after her dam I guess and her calves were similar. We used a 6 frame BPF Special Focus on heifers that was a 6 frame and those calves were small, all along. The last bull we used was PA Power Tool he was under 6 maybe 5.8 or something, couldn’t find an available 6. Good calves, liked them but we have trouble with getting good weaning weights and size, they mature at decent size and start to get looking better frame wise around yearlings. Maybe we just have defective cows. At one point I had some 1800 pound registered Angus cows weaning off 450-500 Angus calves. By around 18 months the heifers were starting to look good and had some growth, the steers though when sold a little after weaning were small and always sold as fleshy. When I crossed my cows with a larger framed Hereford or Limousin I got bigger framed calves that did better at weaning. I realize you and lots of other folks use Angus and have some fine looking cattle that I would be mighty proud to have but for some reason mine always hit a low growth ceiling as calves through weaning. I don’t have a logical answer for it. [/QUOTE]
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