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can you explain why you raise the cattle you do?
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<blockquote data-quote="Anguscattle" data-source="post: 919371" data-attributes="member: 18475"><p>I agree with your professor. The average daily high in their summer native environment is comparable to my winters. </p><p></p><p>I can't keep the bulls off of my property. That is my biggest issue and sore spot. Heifers bred to young, pure brangus being bred etc. The bulls are nuts. They are always showing up on my place from somewhere or another. Last time it was two and they came from a widow's place miles away from me which means they had to cross the river and several fences to get here. I am well beyond fed up. Sheriff is changing the county laws on ranges because of all of the bull problems. They cost me a great deal of time and money in fence repairs when they are done wrecking everything. </p><p></p><p>The breed as it is now is nothing like it originally was. Most old cattlemen swear there has been tainting. All I know is they don't average the same weights they did in the 60's. They are twice the size. I don't know of any other breed changing its size and appearance as they have. </p><p></p><p>Trying to jump gates and landing on them ruins the gates. Pulling fence posts out of the ground to get under the fence when I raise them to keep them from jumping is another issue. Hot wire will not stop them. They jump cattle guards the gas companies put in. Cost to me and time for repairs are the biggest pain in the butt. I don't even run that breed but get stuck with all the ramifications of other people owning them. It makes no sense to me why anyone would want to have to deal with all this maintenances issues they cause.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you saying that the angus breed has doubled its size since the 60's??</p><p>The angus breed was getting fairly large in size there for a while, but in recent years they have been cut back A LOT.</p><p>Most breeders are selecting for a moderate framed cow these days. And most of them are just that. Moderate in size.</p><p>As far as location is concerned... Well I agree that Texas isn't the same as their native range in Scotland. But the angus today are not the Scottish angus brought over years ago! They have been changed so much and have adapted to different climates. My professors argument was based solely on the fact that they are black. He said black cattle didnt belong in a hot environment. C'mon now, really?? If that were true... Well goodbye brangus, angus, maines, limis and others! They are all raised in Texas.</p><p>As far as fence jumping.. It sounds as if you are saying that is strictly an angus thing. Ive seen bulls of all breeds jump fences. I dont have an answer for your situation. There is no telling what made them get out and travel like that. Im sorry to hear of your bad luck! Hopefully that doesnt happen again!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anguscattle, post: 919371, member: 18475"] I agree with your professor. The average daily high in their summer native environment is comparable to my winters. I can't keep the bulls off of my property. That is my biggest issue and sore spot. Heifers bred to young, pure brangus being bred etc. The bulls are nuts. They are always showing up on my place from somewhere or another. Last time it was two and they came from a widow's place miles away from me which means they had to cross the river and several fences to get here. I am well beyond fed up. Sheriff is changing the county laws on ranges because of all of the bull problems. They cost me a great deal of time and money in fence repairs when they are done wrecking everything. The breed as it is now is nothing like it originally was. Most old cattlemen swear there has been tainting. All I know is they don't average the same weights they did in the 60's. They are twice the size. I don't know of any other breed changing its size and appearance as they have. Trying to jump gates and landing on them ruins the gates. Pulling fence posts out of the ground to get under the fence when I raise them to keep them from jumping is another issue. Hot wire will not stop them. They jump cattle guards the gas companies put in. Cost to me and time for repairs are the biggest pain in the butt. I don't even run that breed but get stuck with all the ramifications of other people owning them. It makes no sense to me why anyone would want to have to deal with all this maintenances issues they cause. Are you saying that the angus breed has doubled its size since the 60's?? The angus breed was getting fairly large in size there for a while, but in recent years they have been cut back A LOT. Most breeders are selecting for a moderate framed cow these days. And most of them are just that. Moderate in size. As far as location is concerned... Well I agree that Texas isn't the same as their native range in Scotland. But the angus today are not the Scottish angus brought over years ago! They have been changed so much and have adapted to different climates. My professors argument was based solely on the fact that they are black. He said black cattle didnt belong in a hot environment. C'mon now, really?? If that were true... Well goodbye brangus, angus, maines, limis and others! They are all raised in Texas. As far as fence jumping.. It sounds as if you are saying that is strictly an angus thing. Ive seen bulls of all breeds jump fences. I dont have an answer for your situation. There is no telling what made them get out and travel like that. Im sorry to hear of your bad luck! Hopefully that doesnt happen again! [/QUOTE]
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