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Can I re-induce lactation after 28 days?
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<blockquote data-quote="Katpau" data-source="post: 1627163" data-attributes="member: 9933"><p>After a week of putting the calf on the cow three times a day, we were able to get her milking some, but it was not enough to sustain the calf, and she was still uninterested in allowing it to nurse, unless she was locked in the head-gate. On day 7, I got a call from a friend and discovered she had a cow that had lost a calf 9 days ago. She was being pressured by our mutual friend the Vet to cull her. She was very fond of the cow who was only 4 years old, and so we decided to see if I could get her to take my calf. She delivered the cow that evening and it was determined she still had milk. I let Mama number two go, and she walked off without even looking back. While I'm not convinced that I could never get any cow back into milk after 28 days, I know this one was not going to work.</p><p></p><p>Wednesday 4-15-20 at 7 PM we put the calf on Mama #3. The calf worked all 4 nipples and still took half a bottle. We have been putting the calf on the cow the last 2 days and supplementing with the bottle. This cow is now talking to the calf and follows it around, but when it occasionally gets a hold of a nipple, she pushes it off as soon as the calf aggressively butts her. He is actually pretty hesitant to go in and mostly just reaches out towards her and moves off if she moves her leg at all. Last night he did not seem very hungry, but I put him on her. Perhaps she is allowing him to nurse when we aren't looking? In the chute, he is very aggressive and almost lifts her off the ground when he rams her. I have still been offering the bottle after he nursed. Last night he took the partial bottle, and then had nasty diarrhea. I believe he was getting too much, so today we are just letting him suck the cow. His stomach feels full after he nurses her in the head-gate, but I have not witnessed him nursing on his own. He is solid black and she is a registered Hereford. My friend only has red and white cows, so the cow had never seen a calf like this before. I am wondering if that is somewhat confusing to her. She calls him and walks up along side him, put when he timidly reaches out toward her udder, she gently lifts her leg and walks away. I swear she looks at him kind of like "what are you"?</p><p></p><p>This poor little Hereford did not lose her calf without help. She was out in the pasture with a group of other cows and their calves. It was decided they should bring them up closer to the house for calving. After they were gathered, my friends hired help went out to the pasture and discovered a newborn calf was left behind. They brought it up and decided it belonged to a cow that was bagged up. She had apparently tried to get away to go back when they were gathering, so they were sure the calf belonged to her. They penned them up, but the cow rejected the calf. Instead of looking at the other cows to see if she might be the wrong cow, they caught her and forced her to take the calf. After a few days, she accepted and was feeding the calf. The next morning they discovered she had given birth to her own calf, but it was stillborn. Not sure why. They decided to leave the stolen calf with her and my friend was able to identify the cow that had actually given birth. The Vet said she should go, because she had not made a fuss trying to get back to her calf. She had raised several other calves with good results, so if she will raise mine, I will try to AI her to another Hereford bull and give her back in the Fall.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Katpau, post: 1627163, member: 9933"] After a week of putting the calf on the cow three times a day, we were able to get her milking some, but it was not enough to sustain the calf, and she was still uninterested in allowing it to nurse, unless she was locked in the head-gate. On day 7, I got a call from a friend and discovered she had a cow that had lost a calf 9 days ago. She was being pressured by our mutual friend the Vet to cull her. She was very fond of the cow who was only 4 years old, and so we decided to see if I could get her to take my calf. She delivered the cow that evening and it was determined she still had milk. I let Mama number two go, and she walked off without even looking back. While I'm not convinced that I could never get any cow back into milk after 28 days, I know this one was not going to work. Wednesday 4-15-20 at 7 PM we put the calf on Mama #3. The calf worked all 4 nipples and still took half a bottle. We have been putting the calf on the cow the last 2 days and supplementing with the bottle. This cow is now talking to the calf and follows it around, but when it occasionally gets a hold of a nipple, she pushes it off as soon as the calf aggressively butts her. He is actually pretty hesitant to go in and mostly just reaches out towards her and moves off if she moves her leg at all. Last night he did not seem very hungry, but I put him on her. Perhaps she is allowing him to nurse when we aren't looking? In the chute, he is very aggressive and almost lifts her off the ground when he rams her. I have still been offering the bottle after he nursed. Last night he took the partial bottle, and then had nasty diarrhea. I believe he was getting too much, so today we are just letting him suck the cow. His stomach feels full after he nurses her in the head-gate, but I have not witnessed him nursing on his own. He is solid black and she is a registered Hereford. My friend only has red and white cows, so the cow had never seen a calf like this before. I am wondering if that is somewhat confusing to her. She calls him and walks up along side him, put when he timidly reaches out toward her udder, she gently lifts her leg and walks away. I swear she looks at him kind of like "what are you"? This poor little Hereford did not lose her calf without help. She was out in the pasture with a group of other cows and their calves. It was decided they should bring them up closer to the house for calving. After they were gathered, my friends hired help went out to the pasture and discovered a newborn calf was left behind. They brought it up and decided it belonged to a cow that was bagged up. She had apparently tried to get away to go back when they were gathering, so they were sure the calf belonged to her. They penned them up, but the cow rejected the calf. Instead of looking at the other cows to see if she might be the wrong cow, they caught her and forced her to take the calf. After a few days, she accepted and was feeding the calf. The next morning they discovered she had given birth to her own calf, but it was stillborn. Not sure why. They decided to leave the stolen calf with her and my friend was able to identify the cow that had actually given birth. The Vet said she should go, because she had not made a fuss trying to get back to her calf. She had raised several other calves with good results, so if she will raise mine, I will try to AI her to another Hereford bull and give her back in the Fall. [/QUOTE]
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