California, Oregon and Washington Talking Secession

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There has been some very recent discussion from these states about seceding from the United States. While part of me hopes they do this because they would fall magnificently on their faces, the other, more rational part of me, realizes how screwed I'd be b/c I'm 17 miles from Oregon. I don't think the people calling for it realize how absolutely difficult it would be in terms of just creating a government, defense system and financial system, and that would just be scratching the system.

This could get interesting. :pop:
 
Oregon and Washington have some grand real estate! Be a shame. We would lose Dave and Alan. Although, they could participate as international users. :lol:

Of course, such talk is non-sense. Didn't a Texas member of their state Congress offer that Texas secede in the face of Obama's reelection?
 
Interesting: Texas has been the most active state advocating succession. It originated over the issue of state sovereign rights in the 1800s. Then in the 1990s over the Branch Davidian incident. Most recently over the reelection of Obama:

After the 2012 presidential election, bumper stickers and signs saying "secede" began appearing in Texas.[30] The election also triggered a wave of petitions on the White House "We the People" website. While the Texas petition was not first to appear, it overtook those of the other states with over 125,000 signatures, well above the 25,000 to trigger a response.[13][26] The petition stated that secession would "protect the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government" and defend Texans from "blatant abuses to their rights"[31] The Texas secession petition was followed by one allowing Austin to secede from Texas and stay part of the union.[31] The White House issued a 476-word response rejecting the idea.
 
Margonme said:
Interesting: Texas has been the most active state advocating succession. It originated over the issue of state sovereign rights in the 1800s. Then in the 1990s over the Branch Davidian incident. Most recently over the reelection of Obama:

After the 2012 presidential election, bumper stickers and signs saying "secede" began appearing in Texas.[30] The election also triggered a wave of petitions on the White House "We the People" website. While the Texas petition was not first to appear, it overtook those of the other states with over 125,000 signatures, well above the 25,000 to trigger a response.[13][26] The petition stated that secession would "protect the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government" and defend Texans from "blatant abuses to their rights"[31] The Texas secession petition was followed by one allowing Austin to secede from Texas and stay part of the union.[31] The White House issued a 476-word response rejecting the idea.[/quot.

A lot of difference in us and them we are the only sovereign nation that joined
Secondly they wouldn't even exist had we not joined

Measured by its results, San Jacinto was one of the decisive battles of the world. The freedom of Texas from Mexico won here led to annexation and to the Mexican–American War, resulting in the acquisition by the United States of the states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, California, Utah and parts of Colorado, Wyoming, Kansas and Oklahoma. Almost one-third of the present area of the American Nation, nearly a million square miles of territory, changed sovereignty.
 
Margonme":1o3nvpfr said:
Interesting: Texas has been the most active state advocating succession. It originated over the issue of state sovereign rights in the 1800s. Then in the 1990s over the Branch Davidian incident. Most recently over the reelection of Obama:

After the 2012 presidential election, bumper stickers and signs saying "secede" began appearing in Texas.[30] The election also triggered a wave of petitions on the White House "We the People" website. While the Texas petition was not first to appear, it overtook those of the other states with over 125,000 signatures, well above the 25,000 to trigger a response.[13][26] The petition stated that secession would "protect the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government" and defend Texans from "blatant abuses to their rights"[31] The Texas secession petition was followed by one allowing Austin to secede from Texas and stay part of the union.[31] The White House issued a 476-word response rejecting the idea.
Texas ain't going nowhere. ;-)
 
TexasBred":15l2xmf7 said:
Margonme":15l2xmf7 said:
Interesting: Texas has been the most active state advocating succession. It originated over the issue of state sovereign rights in the 1800s. Then in the 1990s over the Branch Davidian incident. Most recently over the reelection of Obama:

After the 2012 presidential election, bumper stickers and signs saying "secede" began appearing in Texas.[30] The election also triggered a wave of petitions on the White House "We the People" website. While the Texas petition was not first to appear, it overtook those of the other states with over 125,000 signatures, well above the 25,000 to trigger a response.[13][26] The petition stated that secession would "protect the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government" and defend Texans from "blatant abuses to their rights"[31] The Texas secession petition was followed by one allowing Austin to secede from Texas and stay part of the union.[31] The White House issued a 476-word response rejecting the idea.
Texas ain't going nowhere. ;-)

LMAO. I admire CB but he sure is full of TEXAS.
 
Margonme":2e5s5g5f said:
TexasBred":2e5s5g5f said:
Margonme":2e5s5g5f said:
Interesting: Texas has been the most active state advocating succession. It originated over the issue of state sovereign rights in the 1800s. Then in the 1990s over the Branch Davidian incident. Most recently over the reelection of Obama:

After the 2012 presidential election, bumper stickers and signs saying "secede" began appearing in Texas.[30] The election also triggered a wave of petitions on the White House "We the People" website. While the Texas petition was not first to appear, it overtook those of the other states with over 125,000 signatures, well above the 25,000 to trigger a response.[13][26] The petition stated that secession would "protect the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government" and defend Texans from "blatant abuses to their rights"[31] The Texas secession petition was followed by one allowing Austin to secede from Texas and stay part of the union.[31] The White House issued a 476-word response rejecting the idea.
Texas ain't going nowhere. ;-)

LMAO. I admire CB but he sure is full of TEXAS.
Can't understand what you have never been or your family stood a wall and died for.
 
Caustic Burno":1klaa99t said:
Margonme":1klaa99t said:
TexasBred":1klaa99t said:
Texas ain't going nowhere. ;-)

LMAO. I admire CB but he sure is full of TEXAS.
Can't understand what you have never been or your family stood a wall and died for.

I do understand. I admire your love and loyalty for the real estate you live on and your ancestors died for. The world needs that.

I have several Uncles now departed who fought in WWII. I cannot say they had the same patriotism or loyalty. Everyone of them told me all they ever wanted was to go home. They said the only two good things they got while overseas was whiskey (Sake in Japan) and women. They all would get together and laugh that the only hero they ever saw was the one who was smart enough to find a way to get off the front line.
 
Caustic Burno":353t5tmo said:
M-5":353t5tmo said:
That's cool , it would create more jobs building those extra miles of of the wall. I swear the left coast Is retarded
It must be something in the pacific and North Atlantic salt water that lowers IQ


Hey now.... I was RAISED in CA my entire life, moved to MO about 10 years ago. Maybe I would be smarter than I am now????? :dunce:
 
Margonme":38b1ncog said:
Bigfoot":38b1ncog said:
I won't miss em.

IDK? Dave and Alan are valued contributors to this forum.

Thanks Ron, not speaking for Dave, but if Oregon secedes can one of you guys helping the celebs move to Canada help me move too? But I want dropped off in Idaho. Love the Macall and Cardilane area, spent a lot of time in Nampa, but way to big these days. Also Bigfoot posted a red/blue map by county and it's a very representative of how red Oregon is.
 
Fire Sweep Ranch":3qalz00y said:
Caustic Burno":3qalz00y said:
M-5":3qalz00y said:
That's cool , it would create more jobs building those extra miles of of the wall. I swear the left coast Is retarded
It must be something in the pacific and North Atlantic salt water that lowers IQ


Hey now.... I was RAISED in CA my entire life, moved to MO about 10 years ago. Maybe I would be smarter than I am now????? :dunce:
You didn;t get smarter leaving ca, you proved you were too smart for ca by moving
 
Alan":sm2hse0y said:
Margonme":sm2hse0y said:
Bigfoot":sm2hse0y said:
I won't miss em.

IDK? Dave and Alan are valued contributors to this forum.

Thanks Ron, not speaking for Dave, but if Oregon secedes can one of you guys helping the celebs move to Canada help me move too? But I want dropped off in Idaho. Love the Macall and Cardilane area, spent a lot of time in Nampa, but way to big these days. Also Bigfoot posted a red/blue map by county and it's a very representative of how red Oregon is.

I can come help you move. :nod:
 
Caustic Burno":41i6wr4h said:
M-5":41i6wr4h said:
That's cool , it would create more jobs building those extra miles of of the wall. I swear the left coast Is retarded
It must be something in the pacific and North Atlantic salt water that lowers IQ
Noooo. They are just stoned....:)
 
Must be western WA and OR and S. Calif, if there is secession talk -- won't be the other halves of those states. Heck, East WA and OR, N. Calif., Nevada, Montana, Idaho and Alaska have been wanting to be relieved as part of the liberal Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals for years, and that hasn't happened!
 

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