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<blockquote data-quote="Beefy" data-source="post: 623961" data-attributes="member: 57"><p>Larry--</p><p>hes actually a pretty good vet, but hes about the only one around who sees cows, and hes more into small animals nowadays. admittedly, i probably fall into the category of the guy who calls the vet to come fix a dying cow as a last effort after i've tried everything. he always jokes about i only call him for freak cases and i always told him to expect that b/c if it was something easy i could fix it. </p><p></p><p>he was out here a few months back. i had a cow go down and i told him i thought it was from parasites. he looked at her gums, then kicked her stool around and he told me she was just old and worn out and lacking energy. i told him she was going on 12... he said she may be older than that. i said, no, i just looked at her records and she is exactly that age. "Oh." he said. so he took a fecal sample in and called back and said she had a lot of worms. i know he said haemonchus and osteragia and i think he said she had a few cocci but i'm not positive on that... </p><p></p><p>anyway, i wormed the calf with valbazen about 4 days ago so i wont try the safegaurd with her as puny as she is but i will use it on the next one maybe. does anyone know if the safegaurd blocks are effective? i guess it depends on the parasite but i was thinking about trying those at some point. </p><p></p><p>i remember a thread back in 2006 in the winter time by someone who said he had a freind in florida whos cattle started going down and the vet finaly figured out that it was some kind of worm that the wormer wasnt getting. i just assumed this person actually was talking about flukes but now i wonder what the actual diagnosis was. i'm not far from florida myself. i wish i knew who said that or could find the thread.</p><p></p><p>you are right tho Larry-it does give me a little bit of comfort that i'm dealing with a parasite rather than a disease (like Johne's) b/c of the ages afflicted. at first i was worried it was that b/c it was a first calver and old cow with the bottle jaw but then when the pre-weaned calves started getting it too it was a little bit of a relief even if she did up and fall over dead. i havent ruled out a combination of parasites and fast acting pneumonia either even tho i've tried nuflor and that didnt help. </p><p></p><p>i also thought about the nutrition aspect of it all but hay changes have been made and that didnt do anything so i've pretty much ruled that out. they have been getting protein tubs with minerals. i'll get to the bottom of this one way or another even if i have to drag the calf into town</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beefy, post: 623961, member: 57"] Larry-- hes actually a pretty good vet, but hes about the only one around who sees cows, and hes more into small animals nowadays. admittedly, i probably fall into the category of the guy who calls the vet to come fix a dying cow as a last effort after i've tried everything. he always jokes about i only call him for freak cases and i always told him to expect that b/c if it was something easy i could fix it. he was out here a few months back. i had a cow go down and i told him i thought it was from parasites. he looked at her gums, then kicked her stool around and he told me she was just old and worn out and lacking energy. i told him she was going on 12... he said she may be older than that. i said, no, i just looked at her records and she is exactly that age. "Oh." he said. so he took a fecal sample in and called back and said she had a lot of worms. i know he said haemonchus and osteragia and i think he said she had a few cocci but i'm not positive on that... anyway, i wormed the calf with valbazen about 4 days ago so i wont try the safegaurd with her as puny as she is but i will use it on the next one maybe. does anyone know if the safegaurd blocks are effective? i guess it depends on the parasite but i was thinking about trying those at some point. i remember a thread back in 2006 in the winter time by someone who said he had a freind in florida whos cattle started going down and the vet finaly figured out that it was some kind of worm that the wormer wasnt getting. i just assumed this person actually was talking about flukes but now i wonder what the actual diagnosis was. i'm not far from florida myself. i wish i knew who said that or could find the thread. you are right tho Larry-it does give me a little bit of comfort that i'm dealing with a parasite rather than a disease (like Johne's) b/c of the ages afflicted. at first i was worried it was that b/c it was a first calver and old cow with the bottle jaw but then when the pre-weaned calves started getting it too it was a little bit of a relief even if she did up and fall over dead. i havent ruled out a combination of parasites and fast acting pneumonia either even tho i've tried nuflor and that didnt help. i also thought about the nutrition aspect of it all but hay changes have been made and that didnt do anything so i've pretty much ruled that out. they have been getting protein tubs with minerals. i'll get to the bottom of this one way or another even if i have to drag the calf into town [/QUOTE]
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