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<blockquote data-quote="gman4691" data-source="post: 1799313" data-attributes="member: 43107"><p>Brangus for sure...I think you (and some others) may be onto something with the genetics. Many of the cows have that classic brangus look. However, there have been cows out here since at least 1958 of varying breeds (hereford, brahma, beefmaster, possibly another one or two) and it's impossible for me to know what was kept or sold over the years - so no telling what may be hiding in the gene pool. Several look very similar to charolais although there have never been any of that breed out here or at the neighbors to my knowledge. The genetics of the current herd is virtually impossible to nail down - way too many variables over way too much time. Mr. Allison and I ruled out any nutritional issues pretty quick - but it was a good thing to consider. Genetics however is another ball of string altogether - and far to complicated for my little peanut brain. Having given it some thought after reading input from other members here (and that input, though a bit overwhelming at first is greatly appreciated), the thought ran through my mind of possibly selling this motley bunch and then buying open brangus cows to replace them. At least that would narrow down the question of genetics. And we are in a position to make it through the waiting period for the cows to start calving and see what we've got. That makes me a bit squeamish but it would whittle down the variables considerably. A cattleman that is going to do some fencing work out here for me this year runs about 150 cattle and says he sells at about 6-8 months and hits that 800+ lbs. with his steers. So I think your suggestion regarding genetics is an excellent point. Now if I can just talk myself into a complete turnover...not an easy thing to do. My science background is more earth sciences than biology but I do understand the value in simplifying by reducing variables (kind of an Occam's Razor thing). My best successes in life thus far have been through simplifying things - getting past the weeds and down to the bottom line. As mentioned in a different thread, my 83 year old mother & I are nothing if not brutally pragmatic. Any idea what to expect to pay for an open brangus cow - say maybe 2-3 years old?</p><p></p><p>Lots of good input here - some isn't really relevant to our operation (like finishing, but does provide some good insight) - and I'll repeat that it is all greatly appreciated. As stated previously, we aren't a large operation but I wouldn't say we are a "hobby farm" either - not by a long shot. There are no "pet" cattle here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gman4691, post: 1799313, member: 43107"] Brangus for sure...I think you (and some others) may be onto something with the genetics. Many of the cows have that classic brangus look. However, there have been cows out here since at least 1958 of varying breeds (hereford, brahma, beefmaster, possibly another one or two) and it's impossible for me to know what was kept or sold over the years - so no telling what may be hiding in the gene pool. Several look very similar to charolais although there have never been any of that breed out here or at the neighbors to my knowledge. The genetics of the current herd is virtually impossible to nail down - way too many variables over way too much time. Mr. Allison and I ruled out any nutritional issues pretty quick - but it was a good thing to consider. Genetics however is another ball of string altogether - and far to complicated for my little peanut brain. Having given it some thought after reading input from other members here (and that input, though a bit overwhelming at first is greatly appreciated), the thought ran through my mind of possibly selling this motley bunch and then buying open brangus cows to replace them. At least that would narrow down the question of genetics. And we are in a position to make it through the waiting period for the cows to start calving and see what we've got. That makes me a bit squeamish but it would whittle down the variables considerably. A cattleman that is going to do some fencing work out here for me this year runs about 150 cattle and says he sells at about 6-8 months and hits that 800+ lbs. with his steers. So I think your suggestion regarding genetics is an excellent point. Now if I can just talk myself into a complete turnover...not an easy thing to do. My science background is more earth sciences than biology but I do understand the value in simplifying by reducing variables (kind of an Occam's Razor thing). My best successes in life thus far have been through simplifying things - getting past the weeds and down to the bottom line. As mentioned in a different thread, my 83 year old mother & I are nothing if not brutally pragmatic. Any idea what to expect to pay for an open brangus cow - say maybe 2-3 years old? Lots of good input here - some isn't really relevant to our operation (like finishing, but does provide some good insight) - and I'll repeat that it is all greatly appreciated. As stated previously, we aren't a large operation but I wouldn't say we are a "hobby farm" either - not by a long shot. There are no "pet" cattle here. [/QUOTE]
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