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<blockquote data-quote="Rustler9" data-source="post: 196283" data-attributes="member: 440"><p>I'm not an Angus breeder but I will give the Angus Association a big thumbs up for the excellent job they've done in marketing their breed and making Angus a household word. </p><p></p><p>Frankie wrote:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to start anything here but I do have a question-How is Angus the only black breed in the US? I though most all beef breeds had gone black now. Yep, I believe they got their color from Angus influence. Did Brangus start out black or red? I rarely ever see a Limousin or Simmental now that isn't black. So does this mean that they can have as little as maybe 1/16th Angus from the cross way back when that turned them black, maybe they're actually Beefmaster or Gelbvieh and still be considered Angus? Let's put it this way-if I'm 1/4 Cherokee am I considered Native American or Caucasian (which is how I'm listed)?</p><p></p><p>I wonder how the folks at the slaughter house determine if an animal is Angus or not? What if a bunch of my dad's black Gelbvieh cross calves run through there? They're out of Beefmaster cows but most have very little or no ear and leather so they basically look like a bunch of Angus or Angus influenced calves. They certainly sell well at the barn. For that matter, I always wonder about the black Longhorn cross calves that we sell, they're out of Beefmaster cross cows too. They bring top dollar at the barn, some have scurs and some don't. Did those calves wind up selling as CAB? I bet they did.</p><p></p><p>Then I would like to take a poll of the American people and ask them what an Angus cow looks like. I've had folks ask me if a Longhorn and an Angus were the same???? :shock: I also had someone say they thought the black and white spotted cows out in the fields were Angus. I think they were actually referring to Holsteins <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>I always find it interesting that it seems that if it's black it brings more at the salebarn. Now, why would it bring more when you sell it if it's not Angus and it's not going to be marketed as such? I think alot of folks buy certified Angus beef that is certified beef but probably not Angus. It just seems like false advertising if an animal that is not Angus can be marketed and sold at a premium price as Angus. Again, I'm not down on Angus or Angus breeders, just don't quite get it though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rustler9, post: 196283, member: 440"] I'm not an Angus breeder but I will give the Angus Association a big thumbs up for the excellent job they've done in marketing their breed and making Angus a household word. Frankie wrote: I'm not trying to start anything here but I do have a question-How is Angus the only black breed in the US? I though most all beef breeds had gone black now. Yep, I believe they got their color from Angus influence. Did Brangus start out black or red? I rarely ever see a Limousin or Simmental now that isn't black. So does this mean that they can have as little as maybe 1/16th Angus from the cross way back when that turned them black, maybe they're actually Beefmaster or Gelbvieh and still be considered Angus? Let's put it this way-if I'm 1/4 Cherokee am I considered Native American or Caucasian (which is how I'm listed)? I wonder how the folks at the slaughter house determine if an animal is Angus or not? What if a bunch of my dad's black Gelbvieh cross calves run through there? They're out of Beefmaster cows but most have very little or no ear and leather so they basically look like a bunch of Angus or Angus influenced calves. They certainly sell well at the barn. For that matter, I always wonder about the black Longhorn cross calves that we sell, they're out of Beefmaster cross cows too. They bring top dollar at the barn, some have scurs and some don't. Did those calves wind up selling as CAB? I bet they did. Then I would like to take a poll of the American people and ask them what an Angus cow looks like. I've had folks ask me if a Longhorn and an Angus were the same???? :shock: I also had someone say they thought the black and white spotted cows out in the fields were Angus. I think they were actually referring to Holsteins :) I always find it interesting that it seems that if it's black it brings more at the salebarn. Now, why would it bring more when you sell it if it's not Angus and it's not going to be marketed as such? I think alot of folks buy certified Angus beef that is certified beef but probably not Angus. It just seems like false advertising if an animal that is not Angus can be marketed and sold at a premium price as Angus. Again, I'm not down on Angus or Angus breeders, just don't quite get it though. [/QUOTE]
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