Bull #4

[gizmom]

Ok last one this is a bull that we have used for a couple of years. I have some heifers out of him that will be calving in the fall, I will be able to tell you if I really like him when I see what the girls do. The most difficult part of the cattle business is the fact that you have to wait so long to see if the decisions you made were good ones. I did like the bull enough that I used him again this year and have ordered more semen on him.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you ... D27165671A

This year we had 7 calves out of this bull and as of right now all look to be keepers I like the phenotype as well as the genetics on this one.

Gizmom

 

[ALACOWMAN]

Like that one for what ever that's worth..good legs moves around with ease... Smooth as silk.....

 

[Lazy M]

Had a second group of calves from a Regis son. They start out tiny but grow like a weed. I've used this bull on 60+ heifers and have only had to pull one. He also bred 41 heifers as an 18 mo old, and they all calved within 65 days.

 

[elkwc]

I don't like him as well as the others. I don't like the way his back moves when he is walking. Videos can be deceiving but he seems to be a little weak in the back. And I saw some sons of his at an auction and some of them were the same way. Now I know where it comes from. Otherwise a nice bull.

 

[wacocowboy]

hey gizmom what about Manning 299 he to me looks like a better bull

 

[JWBrahman]

The most difficult part of the cattle business is the fact that you have to wait so long to see if the decisions you made were good ones. Gizmom

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[gizmom]

Wacocowboy
I just don't know much about the Manning bull, First I had heard of him was when I watched the Coleman sale in the spring. As a group the manning bulls looked really nice. I just haven't used him and at this point have no plans to at least the coming breeding season. This breeding season I will be using Resource, Charlo, Regis, 6149, Pioneer, Missing Link, Paxton and a smidge of Final Answer and Cole Creek Cedar Ridge IV.

Gizmom

 

[JWBrahman]

Just curious, why are you using so many different bulls? Angus breeders around here are using the same bull on 100 females to get a solid contemporary group. As a potential bull buyer how can you assure me that you have a better bull with one or two offspring than the guy who has 45 bull calves?

 

[gizmom]

JW

Good question and to be honest one my husband and I debate frequently, some of these bulls will be used back on cows that have been bred that way before with excellent results. The only bull listed that we have not used is Charlo so this year he will be used lightly to get a sample of his calves. We have a bunch of cows bred to Resource this year and will breed back to him only if we like the calves that we get in the fall. The rest of the bulls have been used and we have progeny on the ground and working in the herd. I make all the breeding decisions on paper then run them by my husband and my son, they will offer some suggestions or changes. It generally works out that we have groups of 7 to 15 bred to each bull. The thing I like about doing it this way is I am selecting what I think is the best mating for each individual animal not just a group. Face it, if I used one bull on fifty head and next year found out that the bull has a major flaw then I am in a serious pickle, however using more bulls getting smaller sire groups if a bull has a failure I don't have all my eggs in the bad basket. If I had 500 cows I could offer larger sire groups but we breed about 150 head so I sure want to get the best calves I can out of them.

Gizmom

 

[JWBrahman]

Great answer Gizmom.