Broadway

[Bright Raven]

Broadway Bull - not a Broadway Browning!

His CE number is still high. I have 3 Broadway calves due in September. All out of cows who have handled big calves. Till-Hill has a full brother to Broadway.

Anyone else using Broadway?

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

He's a truck. I am looking forward to seeing his calves.

 

[Bright Raven]

He's a truck. I am looking forward to seeing his calves.

Count on seeing them. In fact, you can see them in person.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

He's a truck. I am looking forward to seeing his calves.

Count on seeing them. In fact, you can see them in person.

Sounds like a plan.

 

[Franke]

We bred one cow to him this year. Have only seen a few pictures of calves out of him.

 

[True Grit Farms]

He's a terminal bull, SS has received a lot of negative feed back concerning BW on Broadway.
How can you go wrong with Uno Mas?

 

[Bright Raven]

He's a terminal bull, SS has received a lot of negative feed back concerning BW on Broadway.
How can you go wrong with Uno Mas?

Vince, Uno Mas does have a good one now and then but they are not going to be the fast growing, heavy calves people want. I got a couple I like but the Genex bull Elevate has what Uno Mas does and still gives you growth and size.

As you have mentioned before, everyone talks "moderate cattle" but most have a craving for mass. I been watching the results of the bigger Simmental shows - guess what? The winners are those big massive, deep, wide muscular heifers.

 

[True Grit Farms]

He's a terminal bull, SS has received a lot of negative feed back concerning BW on Broadway.
How can you go wrong with Uno Mas?

Vince, Uno Mas does have a good one now and then but they are not going to be the fast growing, heavy calves people want. I got a couple I like but the Genex bull Elevate has what Uno Mas does and still gives you growth and size.

As you have mentioned before, everyone talks "moderate cattle" but most have a craving for mass. I been watching the results of the bigger Simmental shows - guess what? The winners are those big massive, deep, wide muscular heifers.

I've done good selling safe in calf bred heifers to Uno Mas. I'm not into massive cattle anymore. But my son hauled a 1625 lb SimAngus cow back home that he wouldn't sell for $0.59 that's one of 3 that need to go. We're going to calf her out and then sell her as a 3 in 1. I'm really surprised how much our bigger cows weighed. They do bring good money, some folks really like big girls.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

My nephew does!! :hide:

 

[True Grit Farms]

It gets cold up there.

 

[Bright Raven]

My nephew does!! :hide:

Lol

 

[Till-Hill]

He's a terminal bull, SS has received a lot of negative feed back concerning BW on Broadway.
How can you go wrong with Uno Mas?

Terminal? First daughters that have calved in I've heard are perfect uddered, or better than their dam's. He is top 15% for MWW, 35% stay, 45% API, 20% TI.

He is not the best bull in the breed but he as by far the worst. I think he will do wonderful things on Angus cows myself. Mainly what we are using his full brother on. At this point I'm retaining 8-10 daughters.

 

[elkwc]

Moderate means something different to every breeder it seems. I prefer my cows in the 1,350-1,500 range. Have a few over and a few under. Each breeder has to use what works best for their environment. I will say this last winter and spring in this area regardless of breed the bulls with a little more frame and muscle mass were in demand and brought the most. A heavy muscled 5 frame bull brought more. IMO the pendulum swung too far to the low side on cow size and now adjusting.

 

[Bright Raven]

Moderate means something different to every breeder it seems. I prefer my cows in the 1,350-1,500 range. Have a few over and a few under. Each breeder has to use what works best for their environment. I will say this last winter and spring in this area regardless of breed the bulls with a little more frame and muscle mass were in demand and brought the most. A heavy muscled 5 frame bull brought more. IMO the pendulum swung too far to the low side on cow size and now adjusting.

Agree. Seeing frame being more treasured.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

elkwc - Do you consider a frame 5, heavy muscled bull a larger frame? or moderate?
When I refer to moderate, I am generally talking about height.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

The bull as my Avatar is a 5.3 frame, 2300#, calving ease trait leader.

 

[elkwc]

elkwc - Do you consider a frame 5, heavy muscled bull a larger frame? or moderate?
When I refer to moderate, I am generally talking about height.

I consider a frame 5 heavy muscled bull low moderate. I call moderate around a frame 5.5-6.0. The feeder buyers here want at least a frame 5.0 steer but prefer one 5.5 or a little over. The good steers that are frame 5.0 still get a little dock at times. I have seen moderate to refer to frame size and also muscling. I'm a little concerned with the bull I bought this year. If his calves have enough frame size I think he will work ok. But he is likely to mature a little less frame size than I prefer. Hopefully on the larger cows he will work well and leave us with some good females for the future.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

I consider my cowherd moderate in size. Smallest may be a 5 (couple), largest might be a 7, but majority should hit between 5.5 and 6.5. I did have mostly 7-9 frame cows. I was paid good money for weaned heifers in that frame size. When the show circuit smartened up and wanted a more easy doing animal, it was real EASY to get them "moderate" and keep the structural soundness we worked so hard to have with that huge frame. You can say I sorta go with the fad - to a degree. They wanted them tall. I was able to make them tall, but they still had to be big barreled cows that survived on hay and grass.

 

[elkwc]

I consider my cowherd moderate in size. Smallest may be a 5 (couple), largest might be a 7, but majority should hit between 5.5 and 6.5. I did have mostly 7-9 frame cows. I was paid good money for weaned heifers in that frame size. When the show circuit smartened up and wanted a more easy doing animal, it was real EASY to get them "moderate" and keep the structural soundness we worked so hard to have with that huge frame. You can say I sorta go with the fad - to a degree. They wanted them tall. I was able to make them tall, but they still had to be big barreled cows that survived on hay and grass.

Jeanne your cattle are in the size range I prefer. The issue here has been getting the muscling and frame size a person wants and not give up something else. The BW rage in Angus and even some Herefords hurt them. They gave up muscling, structural soundness and frame size to reach it. Many Herefords have added muscling but have moderated too much. Many of the PB breeders feel a 1,250-1,300 lb cow is big enough. And when trying to use those two breeds it has been hard to find what I desire in the price range I feel I can afford for a bull. My current cows range from an upper 4 frame to at least a 7 frame Angus cow. She might be a little more. The common denominator on mine is they do well on grass and breed back quick when exposed. All udders are good to functional. And it seems that this year will be another year where I have more bull calves. And the other requirement is docility. We pulled in the pasture where I had 2 bulls Sunday and loaded a yearling bull that has never been haltered by backing the trailer in a corner and taking the feed bucket and he went in. The only problem was I got 15 more I had to let back. Was moving him to breed heifers. With me being over 65 and her 75 being easy to handle is as important as anything.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

I totally understand needing the cattle docile. I, also, am up there in age (71), but no matter what age, life is much more pleasant when you don't have to run after them or watch your back. I have culled/shipped some real high pedigree good looking cows because I could not trust them after they were turned out with their calf. If a cow is defensive while she is penned up with her newborn, that's fine. She's being a mom, but when I open the gate & turn her out, she best not look at me cross-eyed or she becomes someones lunch.