Breeding

[Bfields30]

4yr old cow took to vet preg check was open was running with bull since May calved in feb.
Two vets checked said she had scar tissue inside but told me don’t be alarmed but I don’t know if should sell her good looking cow f1 brangus raised a big calf. Have another 7yr old cow calved in feb and was pregnant 2 months pregnant but feel like she should’ve been farther along she raised a biggest calf out of my cows. But loss condition she’s back in good condition now don’t know if i should sell both or keep both. This my first season having cows and there having to breed back bought all of them bred or as pairs. Should i sell them or give them a chance I’m not sure? How long usually should breed back window be?

 

[ccr]

i think cows should have a calf every 12 months, so breed back window would be maximum 90 days. our vet says it takes 60 days to breed back, but we have had them breed back in 30 days.

we keep bull with cows for 75 days, if not bred something is astray. just my thoughts on what we do (i'm no expert)

 

[Bright Raven]

A cow should restart releasing an egg and thus have an estrus cycle about 30 days postpartum. I have seen my cows display estrus behavior as early as 14 days postpartum. Generally, I would consider a cycle that early as being false. A cow can routinely breed back as early as 40 days postpartum. As a rule, a cow should be permitted to have 60 days postpartum for the uterus to heal. If you expect to hold to a specific calving season, you would breed your cows approximately 90 days postpartum.

If cows get sufficient nutrition and are disease free especially with regard to diseases affecting fertility and the health of the fetus, they should have no problem breeding back.

When I hear circumstances that you describe, it comes to my mind that you may have a problem with your nutrition program or you have a disease in your herd affecting fertility or the health of the fetus.

 

[bird dog]

If the cows lose condition, mother nature will take care of them and they will sometimes not breed back on schedule to stay on the one calf a year program.

This is the main reason they tell you to have your cows at a body score of 5 or better when they calve. If less than that your odds to rebreed go down.

 

[Bfields30]

A cow should restart releasing an egg and thus have an estrus cycle about 30 days postpartum. I have seen my cows display estrus behavior as early as 14 days postpartum. Generally, I would consider a cycle that early as being false. A cow can routinely breed back as early as 40 days postpartum. As a rule, a cow should be permitted to have 60 days postpartum for the uterus to heal. If you expect to hold to a specific calving season, you would breed your cows approximately 90 days postpartum.

If cows get sufficient nutrition and are disease free especially with regard to diseases affecting fertility and the health of the fetus, they should have no problem breeding back.

When I hear circumstances that you describe, it comes to my mind that you may have a problem with your nutrition program or you have a disease in your herd affecting fertility or the health of the fetus.

I asked vet is it nutrition he said both were in good body score especially the 4 yr old she looks really good. Can you elaborate on nutrition though Bull is out all year

 

[Bfields30]

If the cows lose condition, mother nature will take care of them and they will sometimes not breed back on schedule to stay on the one calf a year program.

This is the main reason they tell you to have your cows at a body score of 5 or better when they calve. If less than that your odds to rebreed go down.

So would you sell or keep

 

[Bfields30]

i think cows should have a calf every 12 months, so breed back window would be maximum 90 days. our vet says it takes 60 days to breed back, but we have had them breed back in 30 days.

we keep bull with cows for 75 days, if not bred something is astray. just my thoughts on what we do (i'm no expert)

Bull been with the 7 yr old since March she calved in Feb

 

[ccr]

could it be a problem with the bull?

 

[Bright Raven]

A cow should restart releasing an egg and thus have an estrus cycle about 30 days postpartum. I have seen my cows display estrus behavior as early as 14 days postpartum. Generally, I would consider a cycle that early as being false. A cow can routinely breed back as early as 40 days postpartum. As a rule, a cow should be permitted to have 60 days postpartum for the uterus to heal. If you expect to hold to a specific calving season, you would breed your cows approximately 90 days postpartum.

If cows get sufficient nutrition and are disease free especially with regard to diseases affecting fertility and the health of the fetus, they should have no problem breeding back.

When I hear circumstances that you describe, it comes to my mind that you may have a problem with your nutrition program or you have a disease in your herd affecting fertility or the health of the fetus.

I asked vet is it nutrition he said both were in good body score especially the 4 yr old she looks really good. Can you elaborate on nutrition though Bull is out all year

Nutrition is a function of more than body score. There are micronutrients such as copper, selenium, zinc, phosphorus, etc that improve fertility. I use VitaFerm ConceptAid. It assures good reproductive performance. Vitamins are also formulated into VitaFerm. I operate 100 % AI. I think good mineral contributes to my success. My calves are very thrifty. My cows pass the placenta right after partum. They breed back promptly.

It could be the bull but if your cows have adequate nutrition, my next step would be to run a blood panel to test for disease such as Neospora. Leptospira, BVD, etc.

 

[bird dog]

If the cows lose condition, mother nature will take care of them and they will sometimes not breed back on schedule to stay on the one calf a year program.

This is the main reason they tell you to have your cows at a body score of 5 or better when they calve. If less than that your odds to rebreed go down.

So would you sell or keep

Normally I would say cull the 7 Y.O. but she would go to the packers and that price is not very good. The 4 Y.O. is a tough choice and would depend on how well you like the cow.
Last year I had 8 out of 60 calve late plus one that did not calve at all. Looking back at it, I let them get to thin because I was not certain I had enough hay. The next calving period (this Year) I fed better hay and more of it and I have only one that is late. I still have 11 to go.

 

[Bfields30]

A cow should restart releasing an egg and thus have an estrus cycle about 30 days postpartum. I have seen my cows display estrus behavior as early as 14 days postpartum. Generally, I would consider a cycle that early as being false. A cow can routinely breed back as early as 40 days postpartum. As a rule, a cow should be permitted to have 60 days postpartum for the uterus to heal. If you expect to hold to a specific calving season, you would breed your cows approximately 90 days postpartum.

If cows get sufficient nutrition and are disease free especially with regard to diseases affecting fertility and the health of the fetus, they should have no problem breeding back.

When I hear circumstances that you describe, it comes to my mind that you may have a problem with your nutrition program or you have a disease in your herd affecting fertility or the health of the fetus.

I asked vet is it nutrition he said both were in good body score especially the 4 yr old she looks really good. Can you elaborate on nutrition though Bull is out all year

Nutrition is a function of more than body score. There are micronutrients such as copper, selenium, zinc, phosphorus, etc that improve fertility. I use VitaFerm ConceptAid. It assures good reproductive performance. Vitamins are also formulated into VitaFerm. I operate 100 % AI. I think good mineral contributes to my success. My calves are very thrifty. My cows pass the placenta right after partum. They breed back promptly.

It could be the bull but if your cows have adequate nutrition, my next step would be to run a blood panel to test for disease such as Neospora. Leptospira, BVD, etc.

Bull has other cows heavy bred 3 heifers calving next month and have other cows due feb March

 

[Bfields30]

could it be a problem with the bull?

He’s a 28 month old bull besides those two everything else is bred heavy or medium bred.

 

[Bright Raven]

I asked vet is it nutrition he said both were in good body score especially the 4 yr old she looks really good. Can you elaborate on nutrition though Bull is out all year

Nutrition is a function of more than body score. There are micronutrients such as copper, selenium, zinc, phosphorus, etc that improve fertility. I use VitaFerm ConceptAid. It assures good reproductive performance. Vitamins are also formulated into VitaFerm. I operate 100 % AI. I think good mineral contributes to my success. My calves are very thrifty. My cows pass the placenta right after partum. They breed back promptly.

It could be the bull but if your cows have adequate nutrition, my next step would be to run a blood panel to test for disease such as Neospora. Leptospira, BVD, etc.

Bull has other cows heavy bred 3 heifers calving next month and have other cows due feb March

A blood panel is cheap. Fill 2 to 3 vials with blood collected from the caudal vein under the tail. They run a test for antibodies to the common pathogens that cause abortions or failure to conceive. After the first test, you will know what your cows might have contracted. If you vaccinate, then you might need to run a second panel to determine if the antibodies are due to clinical disease or an immune response to vaccination.

 

[ccr]

blood panel sounds good.

i think it would be good to know what is happening before deciding to sell or not.

we usually take the advice of our vet. discuss with them and see what they think.

 

[Bfields30]

blood panel sounds good.

i think it would be good to know what is happening before deciding to sell or not.

we usually take the advice of our vet. discuss with them and see what they think.

The vet told me don’t sell the 4 yo give her more time. Two vets checked her today.

 

[Bfields30]

I have wind rain mineral our year round as well tubs out and salt blocks mineral blocks and sulfur blocks. All year.

 

[snoopdog]

How recent was this pregcheck? If the 4yr old is open after 6 months exposure, she needs to go, do not feed her through the winter, you cannot come out financially.

 

[gcreekrch]

If they were here and failed to breed back they would both be gone. Would you keep paying an employee if they didn’t do their job?

Don’t understand not having a designated calving season either. Shorter calving makes for better uniformity and that brings you more money at sale time.

 

[1982vett]

Taking into consideration today’s prices....Since the 4 year old is bred I’d keep her and hope prices improve by the time she weans the calf.

 

[Bfields30]

How recent was this pregcheck? If the 4yr old is open after 6 months exposure, she needs to go, do not feed her through the winter, you cannot come out financially.

Last week I checked her