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<blockquote data-quote="UG" data-source="post: 465173" data-attributes="member: 714"><p>I've never used either of these bulls, so my knowledge is limited. </p><p></p><p>However, I would be cautious in using Garth if you are hoping to produce replacement females or are going to breed him to heifers. His Calving ease EPD is below breed average (94 vs 104 avg), his birth weight EPD is above average (5.9 vs. 1.5 avg), and his milk EPD is low (6 vs. 18 avg). However, his carcass EPDs are good and his growth is strong (98 vs. 74 avg.). If you are looking for a "terminal" sire to use on mature British based cows, Garth appears to be a good choice.</p><p></p><p>Visa has intrigued me because of his nicely balanced EPDs. He is above average for calving ease, below breed average for birth weight by 1.5 lb. and above breed average for YW by 28 lb. at 102 (4 lb better than Garth). Though his carcass numbers aren't quite as good as Garth's, they are close to breed average. </p><p></p><p>If you are hoping to produce replacement females, and your only two choices are Visa and Garth, I'd go with Visa.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UG, post: 465173, member: 714"] I've never used either of these bulls, so my knowledge is limited. However, I would be cautious in using Garth if you are hoping to produce replacement females or are going to breed him to heifers. His Calving ease EPD is below breed average (94 vs 104 avg), his birth weight EPD is above average (5.9 vs. 1.5 avg), and his milk EPD is low (6 vs. 18 avg). However, his carcass EPDs are good and his growth is strong (98 vs. 74 avg.). If you are looking for a "terminal" sire to use on mature British based cows, Garth appears to be a good choice. Visa has intrigued me because of his nicely balanced EPDs. He is above average for calving ease, below breed average for birth weight by 1.5 lb. and above breed average for YW by 28 lb. at 102 (4 lb better than Garth). Though his carcass numbers aren't quite as good as Garth's, they are close to breed average. If you are hoping to produce replacement females, and your only two choices are Visa and Garth, I'd go with Visa. [/QUOTE]
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