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<blockquote data-quote="CMR" data-source="post: 102763" data-attributes="member: 2005"><p>boy i knew this would open up a can of worms. ok here it goes, I'll try to answer all questions but probably will not. 1st , all "purebred" charolais are 31/32, only "fullbloods" are 100% . So yes our blacks came from an angus cow x white char bull = grey heifer 1/2 blood registered, bred to a tan char bull 31/32 = grey char heifer 3/4 blood registered, bred to a red factor 31/32 char bull = black 7/8 bull registered. The grey heifer had a black gene and a diluter gene, gave black gene to calf, black is dominant thus a black bull with a dominant black gene and a recessive red gene. Mated him to our purebred red char females = 15/16 calves, half of them red and half black . Kept up breeding and you end up with 31/32 (purebreds). Exactly how sim/limo/salers/gelv etc ended up with blacks.</p><p> By the way, the picture of black char bull on this thread is not a true black char, if his dna was checked he would have what they call a wild gene, not a true black gene. He comes from reds and does not have a true black gene.</p><p>The American Char Assoc. does not recognize "red or black" char, but the Canadian Char Assoc does. There are alot of red char in the USA now but alot have CAN papers.</p><p>We parentaged our animals all the way up because we knew there would be skeptics, alot are embryos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CMR, post: 102763, member: 2005"] boy i knew this would open up a can of worms. ok here it goes, I'll try to answer all questions but probably will not. 1st , all "purebred" charolais are 31/32, only "fullbloods" are 100% . So yes our blacks came from an angus cow x white char bull = grey heifer 1/2 blood registered, bred to a tan char bull 31/32 = grey char heifer 3/4 blood registered, bred to a red factor 31/32 char bull = black 7/8 bull registered. The grey heifer had a black gene and a diluter gene, gave black gene to calf, black is dominant thus a black bull with a dominant black gene and a recessive red gene. Mated him to our purebred red char females = 15/16 calves, half of them red and half black . Kept up breeding and you end up with 31/32 (purebreds). Exactly how sim/limo/salers/gelv etc ended up with blacks. By the way, the picture of black char bull on this thread is not a true black char, if his dna was checked he would have what they call a wild gene, not a true black gene. He comes from reds and does not have a true black gene. The American Char Assoc. does not recognize "red or black" char, but the Canadian Char Assoc does. There are alot of red char in the USA now but alot have CAN papers. We parentaged our animals all the way up because we knew there would be skeptics, alot are embryos. [/QUOTE]
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