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<blockquote data-quote="John SD" data-source="post: 1105801" data-attributes="member: 14713"><p>While I agree with your basic premise and conclusions, I question whether you are including all the costs of producing hay. Fortunately, we all tend to forget stuff. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> Does your $500 figure include all cash expenses like fuel and twine, equipment repair/replacement, or any return for your labor? </p><p></p><p>I cover 200 acres once in a good year. 2013 overall was pretty good here. Ended up with 330 1300lb bales that I valued at $65 each ($100/ton) </p><p></p><p>Half of the hay went to my neighbor who provides more than half of the labor nowdays. I sold my half two different ways under 10 miles and delivered the hay for $100/ton. Delivery for the neighbor who helps me was short as my hayfield is only a mile from his place.</p><p></p><p>Neighbor bought the fuel and most of the twine in our deal. Fuel alone here cost more than $500 but kept 3 tractors running all summer putting up hay and also moved the hay to the final destination in the fall. </p><p></p><p>All the equipment is mine. Last year with my new Kubota and Vermeer rake I had some spendy new iron working in the hayfield along with my old Ford tractors, MacDon swather, and Hesston baler. </p><p></p><p> I just couldn't do it anymore without a nice cab tractor and the rake speeds up the process. Still hoping to get my cousin to rake this year. Another driver would sure speed up things. </p><p></p><p> The new stuff is sure nice, but definitely comes with a cost. The baler is now 14 yrs old and is parked on the dealer's lot awaiting some off season R&R. Minor repairs on the baler during hay season were around $500 also. Had to get a new hose, repair a hydraulic cylinder, and the worst was a $300+ new tire. :shock: </p><p></p><p> I'm sure I'm missing a few costs too. The part of your post I especially agree with is your point that everyone needs to do what works best for them on their own operation. One should not put too much confidence in some talking head with no real world experience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John SD, post: 1105801, member: 14713"] While I agree with your basic premise and conclusions, I question whether you are including all the costs of producing hay. Fortunately, we all tend to forget stuff. :P Does your $500 figure include all cash expenses like fuel and twine, equipment repair/replacement, or any return for your labor? I cover 200 acres once in a good year. 2013 overall was pretty good here. Ended up with 330 1300lb bales that I valued at $65 each ($100/ton) Half of the hay went to my neighbor who provides more than half of the labor nowdays. I sold my half two different ways under 10 miles and delivered the hay for $100/ton. Delivery for the neighbor who helps me was short as my hayfield is only a mile from his place. Neighbor bought the fuel and most of the twine in our deal. Fuel alone here cost more than $500 but kept 3 tractors running all summer putting up hay and also moved the hay to the final destination in the fall. All the equipment is mine. Last year with my new Kubota and Vermeer rake I had some spendy new iron working in the hayfield along with my old Ford tractors, MacDon swather, and Hesston baler. I just couldn't do it anymore without a nice cab tractor and the rake speeds up the process. Still hoping to get my cousin to rake this year. Another driver would sure speed up things. The new stuff is sure nice, but definitely comes with a cost. The baler is now 14 yrs old and is parked on the dealer's lot awaiting some off season R&R. Minor repairs on the baler during hay season were around $500 also. Had to get a new hose, repair a hydraulic cylinder, and the worst was a $300+ new tire. :shock: I'm sure I'm missing a few costs too. The part of your post I especially agree with is your point that everyone needs to do what works best for them on their own operation. One should not put too much confidence in some talking head with no real world experience. [/QUOTE]
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