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<blockquote data-quote="John SD" data-source="post: 1104463" data-attributes="member: 14713"><p>This thread makes me think back to earlier days. A lot of folks around here switched from loose hay to round bales in the 1980's. I did not get a round baler until I bought a well used Hesston 5500 for the 1994 hay season.</p><p></p><p>When we all stacked loose hay, very few people had a loader tractor over 60 HP and most people had Farmhand F10s and F25s on them. There were a couple of JD copycat Farmhands, but few had loaders as we know them today. </p><p></p><p> We had 2 loader tractors, a Case DC and a IH Super M. Both with F10s. The Super M was definitely superior in mud and snow. No real difference in HP and certainly not a heavier tractor than the DC but the SM was better balanced for Farmhand work. </p><p></p><p>Neither tractor had power steering. The SM had the advantage there and a good Schwartz front end using the OEM IH front hubs/wheels. The DC had the advantage of a wet clutch (hand operated) and live PTO for the pump. My left knee bothers some every so often to this day and I blame it on all those years of clutching with the SM. :roll: </p><p></p><p>When we got round bales that was pretty much the end of using a loader to handle hay. I stacked the bales into14 bale stacks to haul but that was it. Had the Fordson Major by that time which became the main feeding tractor. IAlso got a Ford 8600 with a cab to feed, but still no loader.</p><p></p><p>I'm thinking of the evolution of the equipment neighbors have used since going from loose hay to round bales. We all had 2wd loader tractors and didn't know any better back then.</p><p></p><p>One neighbor's main tractor was a JD 3020 with F25. Also had a 4230 JD with 148 loader which got traded for a 4040. Both loaders with factory JD hay heads. They added a new 4250 (still 2wd) with a 158 in the 80's. That tractor was a hoss of a loader tractor, especially compared to my DC and SM!</p><p></p><p>Neighbor still has the 3020, 4040, and 4250. Took the loader and stacker cab off the 3020 and it is a seldom used utility tractor now. Ford 9030 bi-di is the main chore tractor now. They bought it new along with a swather head. No more swather head because they got a new NH self propelled now.</p><p></p><p>Another neighbor had a DC and a IH 504. In the 80's they bought a new White 2-85 2wd with a loader. Wow, nice warm cab was light years ahead of the home built comfort cover on the 504. Not to the mention the rest of the tractor. A 504 is good little tractor but basically is a glorified H. :lol: </p><p></p><p>White got retired from loader duty when neighbor bought a new mfwd Fiat 80-90. Fiat is kinda retired now too since neighbor bought a 135 HP NH mfwd. Not sure of the model number.</p><p></p><p>Another neighbor for years did everything with a Ford 5000 and F10. When they got into round bales they ended up with a Case 2290 2wd with Farmhand 1140. Still have the Case but now have a JD 4055 mfwd with a loader on it.</p><p></p><p>We've come a long way, baby! :lol: :lol: :lol:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John SD, post: 1104463, member: 14713"] This thread makes me think back to earlier days. A lot of folks around here switched from loose hay to round bales in the 1980's. I did not get a round baler until I bought a well used Hesston 5500 for the 1994 hay season. When we all stacked loose hay, very few people had a loader tractor over 60 HP and most people had Farmhand F10s and F25s on them. There were a couple of JD copycat Farmhands, but few had loaders as we know them today. We had 2 loader tractors, a Case DC and a IH Super M. Both with F10s. The Super M was definitely superior in mud and snow. No real difference in HP and certainly not a heavier tractor than the DC but the SM was better balanced for Farmhand work. Neither tractor had power steering. The SM had the advantage there and a good Schwartz front end using the OEM IH front hubs/wheels. The DC had the advantage of a wet clutch (hand operated) and live PTO for the pump. My left knee bothers some every so often to this day and I blame it on all those years of clutching with the SM. :roll: When we got round bales that was pretty much the end of using a loader to handle hay. I stacked the bales into14 bale stacks to haul but that was it. Had the Fordson Major by that time which became the main feeding tractor. IAlso got a Ford 8600 with a cab to feed, but still no loader. I'm thinking of the evolution of the equipment neighbors have used since going from loose hay to round bales. We all had 2wd loader tractors and didn't know any better back then. One neighbor's main tractor was a JD 3020 with F25. Also had a 4230 JD with 148 loader which got traded for a 4040. Both loaders with factory JD hay heads. They added a new 4250 (still 2wd) with a 158 in the 80's. That tractor was a hoss of a loader tractor, especially compared to my DC and SM! Neighbor still has the 3020, 4040, and 4250. Took the loader and stacker cab off the 3020 and it is a seldom used utility tractor now. Ford 9030 bi-di is the main chore tractor now. They bought it new along with a swather head. No more swather head because they got a new NH self propelled now. Another neighbor had a DC and a IH 504. In the 80's they bought a new White 2-85 2wd with a loader. Wow, nice warm cab was light years ahead of the home built comfort cover on the 504. Not to the mention the rest of the tractor. A 504 is good little tractor but basically is a glorified H. :lol: White got retired from loader duty when neighbor bought a new mfwd Fiat 80-90. Fiat is kinda retired now too since neighbor bought a 135 HP NH mfwd. Not sure of the model number. Another neighbor for years did everything with a Ford 5000 and F10. When they got into round bales they ended up with a Case 2290 2wd with Farmhand 1140. Still have the Case but now have a JD 4055 mfwd with a loader on it. We've come a long way, baby! :lol: :lol: :lol: [/QUOTE]
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