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Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
Scientists claim radiation from handsets are to blame for mysterious 'colony collapse' of bees
By Geoffrey Lean and Harriet Shawcross
Published: 15 April 2007
It seems like the plot of a particularly far-fetched horror film. But some scientists suggest that our love of the mobile phone could cause massive food shortages, as the world's harvests fail.

They are putting forward the theory that radiation given off by mobile phones and other hi-tech gadgets is a possible answer to one of the more bizarre mysteries ever to happen in the natural world - the abrupt disappearance of the bees that pollinate crops. Late last week, some bee-keepers claimed that the phenomenon - which started in the US, then spread to continental Europe - was beginning to hit Britain as well.

The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees' navigation systems, preventing the famously homeloving species from finding their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now evidence to back this up.

Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) occurs when a hive's inhabitants suddenly disappear, leaving only queens, eggs and a few immature workers, like so many apian Mary Celestes. The vanished bees are never found, but thought to die singly far from home. The parasites, wildlife and other bees that normally raid the honey and pollen left behind when a colony dies, refuse to go anywhere near the abandoned hives.

The alarm was first sounded last autumn, but has now hit half of all American states. The West Coast is thought to have lost 60 per cent of its commercial bee population, with 70 per cent missing on the East Coast.

CCD has since spread to Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece. And last week John Chapple, one of London's biggest bee-keepers, announced that 23 of his 40 hives have been abruptly abandoned.

Other apiarists have recorded losses in Scotland, Wales and north-west England, but the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs insisted: "There is absolutely no evidence of CCD in the UK."

The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world's crops depend on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left".

No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides, global warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.

German research has long shown that bees' behaviour changes near power lines.

Now a limited study at Landau University has found that bees refuse to return to their hives when mobile phones are placed nearby. Dr Jochen Kuhn, who carried it out, said this could provide a "hint" to a possible cause.

Dr George Carlo, who headed a massive study by the US government and mobile phone industry of hazards from mobiles in the Nineties, said: "I am convinced the possibility is real."
 
Sounds like global warming to me. :roll: I pick my daughter up from daycare and see the same bush everyday covered with bees in a metropolitan area. The problem with the news business is they have to find news everyday.

Walt
 
vs_cattle":196w19di said:
Wonder if true or if its just a therory

Well, according to what Paul Harvey said today, a scientist whose name I cannot remember did some fairly extensive research and discovered that honey bees will not return to a hive that has a mobile phone anywhere in close vicinity. He further stated research shows that when honey bees leave their hive, they simply disappear, and said that 70% of the bees on the east coast have disappeared, along with 60% on the west coast, and that it's not just the U.S. that is having this problem. He went on to say that a well-known scholar (sp?) - I want to say Aristotle, but I don't think that is right - stated a number of years ago that when the bee population disappears, we have 4 years to live. Make of it what you will.
 
Honey bees are not indigenous to North America. I think they were imported from Europe.

How did they get by without then before?
 
MikeC":cg39cvf7 said:
Honey bees are not indigenous to North America. I think they were imported from Europe.

How did they get by without then before?

From the vast amounts of knowledge I have garnered reading these links, it appear honey bee's are only responsile for some of the pollination. Rain, birds and other insects pollinate as well.

There is a graph on the link I put up showing certain crops and what % bee's pollinate.

ALX
 
msscamp":2qhho8sh said:
vs_cattle":2qhho8sh said:
Wonder if true or if its just a therory

Well, according to what Paul Harvey said today, a scientist whose name I cannot remember did some fairly extensive research and discovered that honey bees will not return to a hive that has a mobile phone anywhere in close vicinity. He further stated research shows that when honey bees leave their hive, they simply disappear, and said that 70% of the bees on the east coast have disappeared, along with 60% on the west coast, and that it's not just the U.S. that is having this problem. He went on to say that a well-known scholar (sp?) - I want to say Aristotle, but I don't think that is right - stated a number of years ago that when the bee population disappears, we have 4 years to live. Make of it what you will.

msscamp, carefully read Mike's post and you will get the information you are lacking. I was going to say 'the rest of the story', but I think Paul Harvey was just getting his information from the same article Mike posted.
 
Chris H":3je76ami said:
msscamp":3je76ami said:
vs_cattle":3je76ami said:
Wonder if true or if its just a therory

Well, according to what Paul Harvey said today, a scientist whose name I cannot remember did some fairly extensive research and discovered that honey bees will not return to a hive that has a mobile phone anywhere in close vicinity. He further stated research shows that when honey bees leave their hive, they simply disappear, and said that 70% of the bees on the east coast have disappeared, along with 60% on the west coast, and that it's not just the U.S. that is having this problem. He went on to say that a well-known scholar (sp?) - I want to say Aristotle, but I don't think that is right - stated a number of years ago that when the bee population disappears, we have 4 years to live. Make of it what you will.

msscamp, carefully read Mike's post and you will get the information you are lacking. I was going to say 'the rest of the story', but I think Paul Harvey was just getting his information from the same article Mike posted.

Thank you, Chris. :oops: I must admit I have a bad habit of not reading lengthy posts, since I have the attention span of a 2 year old - probably a few other things in common with them as well. :oops:
 
A local beekeeper was on the news recently talking about the die-off. He seemed to think that it may be a result of the man-made supplemental feed that keepers have been feeding bees. Either there is something in the supplement causing the problem or something the bee is lacking(malnutrition) due to the drought in this area that is causing the problem.
 
I was a bee keeper. Interesting stuff.

Lots of bee die offs in recent years. Mites and disease and chemicals and electomagnetics and ...

Bottom line is not a lot of science or land grant work being applied to free range bees compared to confinement ag, and a lot of our honey is now being imported from China.
 

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