beefmaster cows

[tiger hunter]

what is the good and bad about them? also what makes the best cross with them?

 

[bigbull338]

theres lots of good things about them.1 they are bred to milk an wean heavy calves.2 they thrive in the heat of summer.3 theyll gaze when other cows are in the shade.4 they are a calving ease breed.most calves are small an hitt the ground growing.5 they breed back pretty quickly.6 they are real gentle when handled gently an calmly.when my cows are worked we dont rush them.we walk slowly around them.an we dont yell at them.

 

[skyline]

I run a registered beefmaster bull on my commercial beefmaster momma cows and have been very pleased with the results. I have also heard running an angus bull on beefmaster cows produces a good calf.

 

[oscar p]

Beefmasters are great cows. I run a registerd Charolais bull,over mine.Always have good calves.

 

[talldog]

Beefmasters are great cows. I run a registerd Charolais bull,over mine.Always have good calves.

I've seen this cross work out well !!! :tiphat:

 

[Rustler9]

Beefmaster mamas are about as good as you can get. Raise big calves, milk well and all that we've had were easy to work with. Cross well with anything. Of course the fad now is black and no ear so you have to downplay the ear on them by crossing with something else.

 

[alacattleman]

what is the good and bad about them? also what makes the best cross with them?

were you located, ?

 

[TexasBred]

what is the good and bad about them? also what makes the best cross with them?

The good part is that just about anything with some ear on it and a good frame can be called "beefmaster" regardless of size, shape or color.

 

[DavisBeefmasters]

The good part is that just about anything with some ear on it and a good frame can be called "beefmaster" regardless of size, shape or color.

Pardon me... you must have been misinformed somewhere along the way.

tigerhunter --> we run a purebred beefmaster cow/calf operation. We have seen crosses with Angus, Charolais, and Maine Anjou that have given great performance to the breeder.

 

[bigbull338]

The good part is that just about anything with some ear on it and a good frame can be called "beefmaster" regardless of size, shape or color.

Pardon me... you must have been misinformed somewhere along the way.

tigerhunter --> we run a purebred beefmaster cow/calf operation. We have seen crosses with Angus, Charolais, and Maine Anjou that have given great performance to the breeder.

come on lolol we are here to get tigerhunter hooked on reg beefmasters.but in all honesty the beefmaster bull will work great on any set of cows.

 

[alacattleman]

The good part is that just about anything with some ear on it and a good frame can be called "beefmaster" regardless of size, shape or color.

Pardon me... you must have been misinformed somewhere along the way.

tigerhunter --> we run a purebred beefmaster cow/calf operation. We have seen crosses with Angus, Charolais, and Maine Anjou that have given great performance to the breeder.

maybe,,, but unfortunately he's not far from the truth..

 

[DavisBeefmasters]

maybe,,, but unfortunately he's not far from the truth..

Well now, if you want to talk frankly you can say that about a lot of breeds,... now can't you?

... and yes, Beefmaster bulls cross well with many breeds for great calves.

 

[alacattleman]

Well now, if you want to talk frankly you can say that about a lot of breeds,... now can't you?

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i do......and no you cant ...... that said,, beefmasters are great momas.. i even got a few

 

[TexasBred]

Well now, if you want to talk frankly you can say that about a lot of breeds,... now can't you?

i do......and no you cant ...... that said,, beefmasters are great momas.. i even got a few[/quote]

Absolutely they are outstanding cows. But I stand by what I said. A lof of crossbreeds with the right amount of ear, some navel and leather can be passed off as beefmaster. It's done everyday. ;-)

 

[East Caney]

Pros: They are good mother cows. I agree that they may be as good, maternally, as any beef breed. With Beefmasters, the maternal quality is what a person should hang their hat on.

Cons: The sale barns are not going to pay a premium for the calves. If it's not color, it's loose hide or sheath. They can be clean. I think mine are as clean as any. As a matter of fact, I sold a solid red polled bull calf that wasn't fat and had a sheath like any Angus (just a hole in the belly). I still received no premium. Didn't get docked...but didn't get a premium. There may also be too much variation and a lack of consistency. I consider this the fault of breeders.

I consider the Charolais bull the best cross for calves headed to market. Buyers seem to pay for the yellow calves. Runner up would be a homozygous black bull that does not have Brahman influence.

EC

 

[Santas and Duhram Reds]

Lack of color consistancy is a fault that can not be argued...period! They can be red, cream, tiger, black, purple with pink polk a dots, etc. They also have more Brahman than most other American breeds.

Edit: Like other American breeds, Beefmasters cross well with both European and British breeds. We have had success with both crosses on our Santas but we personally prefer the British crosses for cows, we consider the European crosses a terminal cross in our operation.

 

[alftn]

I have been watching the Beefmaster breed since the late 70's, have a operation just up the road from my main farm...I do not much care for them, it hard for me to see them as anything but a composite, and color , any shape, any size, lots of exter hide, just not my cup of tea....With that said, as with any good composite there is a lot of hybried viger , thus size , growth, etc...

I like F-1 crosses, black angus X hereford best ,but there are other good F-1 that make good mother cows..The use of a 3 breed ( THE BULL ) makes a good ter. calf...

It like the beefmaster breeders could not agree on any geno or pheno type animals thus any ( are they 3 way or 4 way cross?) is called a beefmaster, just a personall thing and do not expect anyone else to agree..

I like red cow, black cows and spotted cows, but BREED should have animals that can be see and then you know what they are....

Again I am just a novice, it aint all about money to me , thus i can be pickly...but Breeds of cattle should look alike, and most all old breeds do....

 

[ANAZAZI]

I have been watching the Beefmaster breed since the late 70's, have a operation just up the road from my main farm...I do not much care for them, it hard for me to see them as anything but a composite, and color , any shape, any size, lots of exter hide, just not my cup of tea....With that said, as with any good composite there is a lot of hybried viger , thus size , growth, etc...

I like F-1 crosses, black angus X hereford best ,but there are other good F-1 that make good mother cows..The use of a 3 breed ( THE BULL ) makes a good ter. calf...

It like the beefmaster breeders could not agree on any geno or pheno type animals thus any ( are they 3 way or 4 way cross?) is called a beefmaster, just a personall thing and do not expect anyone else to agree..

I like red cow, black cows and spotted cows, but BREED should have animals that can be see and then you know what they are....

Again I am just a novice, it aint all about money to me , thus i can be pickly...but Breeds of cattle should look alike, and most all old breeds do....

The beefmasters seem like a no nonsense breed, bred to be functional and not to be uniform in colour. I admire this.

 

[East Caney]

The beefmasters seem like a no nonsense breed, bred to be functional and not to be uniform in colour. I admire this.

You're right. The founders of the breed weren't looking for uniform color or anything of that nature. The founders of the breed were not looking to create a breed. The breed came about as the result of the high demand for their quality cattle. The only thing they they wanted to be uniform was the quality of calf being weaned from each cow. Nothing else mattered. The problem is that the market isn't interested in quality calves. The market, and those largely responsible for setting the market, are interested in color, horn status, pedigree, and everything else that can't be seen on a hanging carcass.

EC

 

[DavisBeefmasters]

The beefmasters seem like a no nonsense breed, bred to be functional and not to be uniform in colour. I admire this.

You're right. The founders of the breed weren't looking for uniform color or anything of that nature. The founders of the breed were not looking to create a breed. The breed came about as the result of the high demand for their quality cattle. The only thing they they wanted to be uniform was the quality of calf being weaned from each cow. Nothing else mattered. The problem is that the market isn't interested in quality calves. The market, and those largely responsible for setting the market, are interested in color, horn status, pedigree, and everything else that can't be seen on a hanging carcass.

EC

:clap: Well said :clap: