Beat Ya OT! Canada finds another one!WooHoo!

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I am glad to see that someone is still looking! We desided that if we did not look that we did not have it :shock:
 
ALX.":esohgqkc said:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080623/mad_cow_080623/20080623?hub=Health

Just looked at the CFIA website- and its been 2-3-? days since this 15th case was found- but they still don't seem to know where it originated or how old :???:

What happened to Canada's magic tracing system?
 
mwj":wri0f50g said:
I am glad to see that someone is still looking! We desided that if we did not look that we did not have it :shock:


Kind of like what I tell my husband when he is "looking" in the fridge for something but doesn't bend from the waste... :roll:

Look to find,,,,,,,,,look to find......... :dunce:

OT just because it has not been released doesn't mean they don't know....Maybe Canada finally took a page from the US book's. ;-)

BTW all beef from any country in the world needs to be 100% tested...because BSE is everywhere..... :cowboy:
 
5 Years old- another POST feedban case....

INVESTIGATION CONFIRMS AGE OF BSE CASE


OTTAWA, June 27, 2008 - The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) has confirmed that the case of BSE announced on June 23, 2008, was a five-year-old Holstein cow from British Columbia. As previously noted, no part of the animal's carcass entered the human food supply and no risk materials entered the animal feed system.

The animal's age is consistent with previous Canadian cases, which range from 50 months to 192 months of age. It also indicates that this animal was exposed to a very low amount of infective material, probably during its first year of life. As the level of BSE continues to decline, the periodic detection of a small number of cases is fully expected and in line with the experiences of other countries.

The CFIA continues to investigate and gather additional information about the animal's background, including tracing the animal's herdmates at birth, as defined by international BSE response guidelines. The CFIA will also undertake a comprehensive feed investigation to examine how this animal became infected.

Canada is a Controlled Risk country for BSE, as recognized by the World Organization for Animal Health, and the detection of this animal does not affect Canada's status. This status demonstrates the effectiveness of our surveillance, health protection and eradication efforts, and is not based on the number of BSE cases detected.

Canada's rigorous BSE safeguards provide the highest levels of human and animal health protection as the disease is gradually eliminated from the national cattle herd.
 
Canada Continues to Detect BSE in Younger Cattle; New Case Makes 14 Animals Indigenous to Canada

Billings, Mont. – Today, the Canadian Food Inspection Service (CFIA) announced the detection of yet another case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in Canadian cattle. CFIA reported that the infected animal was a 5-year-old Holstein cow from British Columbia, Canada, which would mean she was born in 2003.


The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) points to the reduction in the number of BSE-infected cattle born after the United Kingdom's feed ban as evidence that BSE is under control in Europe. USDA also insists that Canada's BSE problem has likewise been decreasing since implementation of its feed ban. In Canada, however, just the opposite is happening. This latest case – the 14th case detected in a Canadian-born cow and the 15th case when Canada's 1993 imported case is included – also is the eighth case in an animal born after Canada implemented its 1997 ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban, and its seventh case in an animal born after the date of March 1, 1999, that USDA has set for eligibility for Canadian cattle to be exported to the United States.



Canada has detected more BSE cases in animals born after its feed ban than were born before. Additionally, these cases in cattle born after the feed ban are relatively young animals, suggesting they have been subjected to higher doses of infectivity, accounting for the shorter incubation period of the disease, which is known to extend beyond eight years. Additionally, it is now clear that infectivity was circulating in Canadian cattle feed in at least the provinces of Alberta (11 cases), British Columbia (3 cases) and Manitoba (1 case).



"With a 2003 birth date, this latest case represents the most recent birth of a BSE-positive animal in Canada, and it is the second-youngest BSE case detected there as well. This cow was born the same year Canada first detected BSE in its herd, May 20, 2003, which means that BSE-contaminated feed was still circulating in the Canadian feed system after Jan. 1 2003," said R-CALF USA President/Region VI Director Max Thornsberry, a Missouri veterinarian. "USDA is ignoring science by dismissing the mounting empirical evidence that shows Canada's BSE problem has worsened well beyond anyone's expectations, and Canada's cattle herd represents a significant risk to the United States."


Because this particular cow was born after March 1, 1999, USDA's new OTM (over-30-month) Rule – put into effect by the agency on Nov. 19, 2007 – would have allowed this cow to be imported into the U.S. long before she began to exhibit clinical signs of BSE.



"It is a near certainty that the U.S. will import BSE-infected cattle from Canada under the OTM Rule, and that these cattle will continue to incubate the disease right here in our country," Thornsberry pointed out. "To make matters worse, our government is not even testing these high-risk Canadian animals before they enter the U.S. food supply and won't allow private packers to test them either. This is the epitome of government irresponsibility. "



R-CALF USA, along with 10 other plaintiffs, believes the public deserves far more protection than that provided by USDA's relaxed import policies and is challenging USDA's OTM Rule in federal court. A hearing took place Feb. 19, 2008, regarding R-CALF USA's request for a preliminary injunction to suspend the OTM Rule until the court can complete its review of the entire lawsuit. At that hearing, U.S. District Judge Lawrence Piersol took the matter under advisement and a decision is still pending.



"After the incredibly long and complicated delay associated with the United States' attempts to resume U.S. beef exports to South Korea due to that country's BSE concerns, it is irrational for USDA to continue allowing Canadian cattle into the U.S. that were fed in Canada at the same time BSE was known to have circulated in the Canadian feed system," Thornsberry said. "USDA has no justification for purposely exposing the United States to this unacceptable risk."



Thornsberry said that although Congress has failed to step up to provide needed protections against the introduction of BSE, R-CALF USA continues its request to Congress to take immediate measures to prevent the inevitable – the importation of BSE-infected cattle into the United States from Canada.
 
Oldtimer":2dmmmvlt said:
Thornsberry said that although Congress has failed to step up to provide needed protections against the introduction of BSE, R-CALF USA continues its request to Congress to take immediate measures to prevent the inevitable – the importation of BSE-infected cattle into the United States from Canada.
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Using that logic it is inevitable the US will ship the BSE cattle it is not finding to Korea!

And I think the little guys are on to your shell game! :lol: :lol:
 
ALX.":1bavihqk said:
Oldtimer":1bavihqk said:
Thornsberry said that although Congress has failed to step up to provide needed protections against the introduction of BSE, R-CALF USA continues its request to Congress to take immediate measures to prevent the inevitable – the importation of BSE-infected cattle into the United States from Canada.

Using that logic it is inevitable the US will ship the BSE cattle it is not finding to Korea!

And I think the little guys are on to your shell game! :lol: :lol:[/quote]


The fact that we in the US allow imports of beef (and now cattle) from higher risk areas like Canada has been one of the major holdups in opening up not only Korea- but the entire Asian market....Korea along with some other countries still require the segregation out of Canadian origin beef to meet (BEV) Beef Export Verification rules....
USDA should have allowed Creekstone and the Packers that wanted to test and market tested beef to do so- and these markets would be open- and the issue would be moot...But the USDA/Bush Boys have been in the pockets of the Big Money Multinational Lobbyists for the past 7 years... :(
 
Oldtimer":2y6obn8e said:
[The fact that we in the US allow imports of beef (and now cattle) from higher risk areas like Canada has been one of the major holdups in opening up not only Korea- but the entire Asian market....Korea along with some other countries still require the segregation out of Canadian origin beef to meet (BEV) Beef Export Verification rules....
USDA should have allowed Creekstone and the Packers that wanted to test and market tested beef to do so- and these markets would be open- and the issue would be moot...But the USDA/Bush Boys have been in the pockets of the Big Money Multinational Lobbyists for the past 7 years... :(

Are you saying Korea isn't taking Canadian beef direct? I thought they were.

Whats gonna happen when the dust settles from the whole JBS thing if they ran it before?
 
ALX.":mhkfgvss said:
Are you saying Korea isn't taking Canadian beef direct? I thought they were.

Whats gonna happen when the dust settles from the whole JBS thing if they ran it before?

I'm not aware of it ever being opened to Canadian beef- at one time they said they would look at it- but that was prior to all the protests.....I don't think one lb of Canadian beef has gone to S. Korea tho...

Not sure what you mean in the JBS question...All I know is that is the Tyson-Nillson sale goes thru in Canada, over 80% of Canada's beef processing and a large amount of your cattle feeding will be owned by 2 Corporates
And
If JBS purchases go thru in the US, over 80% of all the US's beef processing and a large amount of our cattle feeding will be owned by 3 Corporates
And
they will have a much greater ability to manipulate prices with their captive supply cattle- there will be less competition for cattle- and it will be the independent cattleman and cattlefeeders that stand to lose....
 
Oldtimer":266cr8ck said:
I'm not aware of it ever being opened to Canadian beef- at one time they said they would look at it- but that was prior to all the protests.....I don't think one lb of Canadian beef has gone to S. Korea tho...

Checked into it, you are correct. I guess I got Korea mixed up with Phillipines.

You answered the JBS question as well as any one can at this point. It's the foreign ownership/control ( Brazil ) that I would think really makes it an undesireable event.
 
ALX.":2tn1ibcg said:
Oldtimer":2tn1ibcg said:
I'm not aware of it ever being opened to Canadian beef- at one time they said they would look at it- but that was prior to all the protests.....I don't think one lb of Canadian beef has gone to S. Korea tho...

Checked into it, you are correct. I guess I got Korea mixed up with Phillipines.

You answered the JBS question as well as any one can at this point. It's the foreign ownership/control ( Brazil ) that I would think really makes it an undesireable event.

I agree on the foreign ownership-- and with Tysons and Cargill putting all their investments into S.A. (mostly Brazil and Argentina) I don't think it will be long and they'll be using their lobbyist connections to get USDA to open up the States to cheap S.A. beef...
One of the main reasons I wanted to get M-COOL in place now- and try to get the Checkoff Board to using our checkoff dollars promoting USA BEEF... We need to build up as big a following for our product we can before more of this cheap stuff hits the market....
Canada would be wise to try and do the same with an M-COOL law- and a Captive Supply/Packer Ownership Ban.....I think after Jan 1- and our change of government down here- there is a very good chance that the Packer Ownership Ban law that narrowly got removed from the Farm Bill will sail thru Congress- especially as more of Congressmen see this foreign ownership- larger captive supply happening....
 
Oldtimer":2drl140e said:
Canada would be wise to try and do the same with an M-COOL law- and a Captive Supply/Packer Ownership Ban..

Waay too gutless here. They are dragging their feet on labelling even obvious lies, like pineapple labelled Product of Canada.

But they will sure put the boots to the little guy!
 

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