Basic Fence Questions

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I am doing some new fencing on some new land. I am using 6-8" wood post at corners and metal T-post on 10-12' centers with a 6" wood post every 200" .
1?? With 4 stands of Barbwire starting at 12" above ground and 12" centers with top Hot wire at 52" IS IT OK to use 6' T-post and put them in 1 1/2 ft or use 6 1/2 ' and put them in 2' Both ways leaves 4 1/2' of post

?? 2 I think that 4 strands is enough but would appreciate any comments.

I am raising Angus and Hereford cross.

thanks for any help
 
I like 6 strans, but they cost is more. Calves can get out of 12" spacings. I think 4 will do well for the adults. I use 6' t posts and put them in just enough to cover the wing.


Scotty
 
id use the 7ft t-post.so that you can put them 2ft deep.and have 5ft to work with.if you ever see you need5th strand of wire you can do it easy.scott
 
Depth of T-post depends on type of soil. Sandy soil probably 2 ft deep. Pastures with calves should have barb wire about 8 to 9" apart. 6" apart for first 2 feet above ground better. We've had calves climb thru 9" wire spacing.

5 strand barb wire should be minimum. We use 7 strands of wire with 8 strands on 5.5' high fence on our highway side.

Wire is cheaper than an animal getting loose, killed on road, or liability if a vehicle hits an animal.

"Penny-wise, Pound foolish is Not Wise"...
 
From what we've done, we are more pleased with the Red Brand barbed wire and woven wire. It's higher, but using heavier gauge stuff will pay off in the long run, especially when you're watching that calf just trying to get out, and he can't... he he.

Five strands works for us. Woven wire if there is alot of pressure on it.
 
I guess I am actually running 5 strands including the top electric wire. I will put the first strand 6" from ground the next 2 at 8"apart then 2 at 10" apart and last hot wire 10" at a heigth of 52" total. WELL that makes 6 strands. I will have another hot wire at around 14 inches (on 6" extenders) from bottom in some fields to help keep the goats in. I think they are worse than calves to keep in.

Also we have RED CLAY in Alabama.

I am way off the road and plan to use the red brand wire on the perimiter near the border near the road to my property.

thanks to all for the help.
 
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We use five strands and two strands of hot wire after they went visiting the neighbors. Put the hot wire at 24" and another at 36"...catches a nose every time now. Oh yeah...it stays on all the time now too. Dmc
 
Might try the Gaucho 4-point hi-tensile wire I've found it lasts better than Red Brand and is cheaper. It is also just as easy to work. I have both so these my observerations.
 
Angus Guy":1nezowgf said:
Might try the Gaucho 4-point hi-tensile wire I've found it lasts better than Red Brand and is cheaper. It is also just as easy to work. I have both so these my observerations.
I agree, When it comes to Field Fence I like Rangemaster, and Baekert.For Barb Wire, I like Gaucho, Rangemaster, and Baekert brands. Red Brand has a bad reputation for rusting out faster in this neck of the woods. I've heard too many complaints.
 
Mahoney Pursley Ranch":3014fnhw said:
Six strands of Sheffield 2 point barb with seven foot t posts 2 feet in the gound,8 foot 6" posts 3 feet in the ground every 100 foot.
Ya, but you run a few of them char crosses too. Need better, stronger fence... ;-)
 
HatCreekFan":336yono4 said:
From what we've done, we are more pleased with the Red Brand barbed wire and woven wire. It's higher, but using heavier gauge stuff will pay off in the long run, especially when you're watching that calf just trying to get out, and he can't... he he.

Five strands works for us. Woven wire if there is alot of pressure on it.

My experience with Red Brand hasn't been good. It rusts too quickly. I now use premium grade field fence with heavier galvanizing and higher grade steel. You can tell the difference in the grade of steel when you twist it to make a splice. It's much stiffer. I've got lots of Red Brand field fence and barbed wire that's disintegrating after 25 years or less. Maybe that's to be expected but it makes me mad. I like the 15 1/2 gauge barbed wire because it's higher grade and lasts longer.
gabby
 
Okay, I'll back up and regroup.

Red Brand -yes, agree on the rusting issue. But still, buying the heavier gauge stuff is better. Yes? (barbed wire)

Woven wire- rather use Red Brand. It may be a regional thing here - but it seems like Red Brand is the only one that is heavier built, and has the smaller squares. We've put up the cheap stuff and just been disgusted by the way it pulls...put up Red Brand woven wire and been real pleased.

Another question: Anybody used 'dead men' in their corners?
 
HatCreekFan":h8a36uqi said:
Okay, I'll back up and regroup.

Red Brand -yes, agree on the rusting issue. But still, buying the heavier gauge stuff is better. Yes? (barbed wire)

Woven wire- rather use Red Brand. It may be a regional thing here - but it seems like Red Brand is the only one that is heavier built, and has the smaller squares. We've put up the cheap stuff and just been disgusted by the way it pulls...put up Red Brand woven wire and been real pleased.

Another question: Anybody used 'dead men' in their corners?
Only thing I can say, is that since steel prices have skyrocketed, many folks seem to be opting for the cheaper stuff.If you sacrifice quality over $ you lose.Better to do a section at a time with at least 11.5 gauge field fence than use the 14 ga. stuff that you'll cuss in 6 months or the first time a cow bumps it.I'd definitely stay away from the 6X12 squares. Stay with 4X6.The heavy wire is harder to work with, but well worth the effort of using it.The 15 1/2 barb wire is fine, for a lot of fences, especially through the woods, from tree to tree, I like the 12 1/2ga. for frontage fences, and in clear areas.
 
How far above ground do you start with first strand?
I notice alot of fence where the bottom strand seems to "get lost" in grass and dirt build up.
 
dj":2hd3wyo3 said:
How far above ground do you start with first strand?
I notice alot of fence where the bottom strand seems to "get lost" in grass and dirt build up.
I always start my first strand about 6 in. from the ground, to keep baby calves from rolling under. Then 8 inches, I almost always use 5 strands.
 
I guesse I am not that knowlagable bout the different names. My freind got some prestretched wire. It was a dull grey color. It is crap. The worste stuff ever. Crowder has the spacing right. Keep the babies in.


Scotty
 

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