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<blockquote data-quote="elkwc" data-source="post: 1626853" data-attributes="member: 22295"><p>This will make the 3rd year we have used Hereford bulls on our mostly black cows. Have a few Hereford cows and a few RA. We only use the Hereford bulls on black cows. One of the reasons we started using Hereford bulls was to raise baldie heifers. Our intent was too keep some and sell the rest as breds or first calf pairs. We did use a Balancer bull 5 & 6 years ago so a few of our cows have a little Gelveigh in them. One of the Hereford bulls we have used </p><p>has sired a couple of solid calves and several with just a small snippett of white. Maybe a streak a1/4" wide and an inch long. The other Herefords have sired 100% baldies or mostly white face. I have had this discussion several times before. I feel the solid calves or mostly solid calves happen more frequently than we realize as many times a breeder either has Angus bulls or borders pastures with Angus so you just assume an Angus bred them. But when you have isolated pastures and any bull in the area is a Hereford it becomes more obvious. When you see it in more than one calf crop with a certain sire and not the other sires IMO it is apparent what the issue is. Baldy bred heifers or heifer pairs bring more here. So I feel I'm leaving money on the table with every solid calf. The AHA has acknowledged the issue. I have came to the point I don't care to discuss it anymore. Simpler to handle the issue myself and move on. I have discussed this with SPH and others. Have been called a liar by one person but not SPH. I visit these forums to share experiences and views and too learn. It isn't worth an argument, name calling and hard feelings. I would like to know what bloodlines the issue occurs in for my own selection purposes but have resigned myself to the fact it isn't going to happen. I can cull a bull when it happens and move on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="elkwc, post: 1626853, member: 22295"] This will make the 3rd year we have used Hereford bulls on our mostly black cows. Have a few Hereford cows and a few RA. We only use the Hereford bulls on black cows. One of the reasons we started using Hereford bulls was to raise baldie heifers. Our intent was too keep some and sell the rest as breds or first calf pairs. We did use a Balancer bull 5 & 6 years ago so a few of our cows have a little Gelveigh in them. One of the Hereford bulls we have used has sired a couple of solid calves and several with just a small snippett of white. Maybe a streak a1/4" wide and an inch long. The other Herefords have sired 100% baldies or mostly white face. I have had this discussion several times before. I feel the solid calves or mostly solid calves happen more frequently than we realize as many times a breeder either has Angus bulls or borders pastures with Angus so you just assume an Angus bred them. But when you have isolated pastures and any bull in the area is a Hereford it becomes more obvious. When you see it in more than one calf crop with a certain sire and not the other sires IMO it is apparent what the issue is. Baldy bred heifers or heifer pairs bring more here. So I feel I'm leaving money on the table with every solid calf. The AHA has acknowledged the issue. I have came to the point I don't care to discuss it anymore. Simpler to handle the issue myself and move on. I have discussed this with SPH and others. Have been called a liar by one person but not SPH. I visit these forums to share experiences and views and too learn. It isn't worth an argument, name calling and hard feelings. I would like to know what bloodlines the issue occurs in for my own selection purposes but have resigned myself to the fact it isn't going to happen. I can cull a bull when it happens and move on. [/QUOTE]
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