balancer cattle

[cross_7]

not bashing , i'm not familar with gelbvieh cattle.
what does the breed bring to the table when crossed with a angus ?
is it a terminal cross for carcass ?

 

[dun]

Mostly just meat and milk

 

[HOSS]

Muscle, milk and docility.......usually. I love the cross. Results in extra pounds for me.

 

[denvermartinfarms]

Mostly just meat and milk

This is what i hear alot of but in my expierence the gelbvieh did not do much the steer calves were fine but none of the hiefers ever made good cows that ever milked good or were good calf raisers. for me the best bull for angus cattle is a angus or horned hereford or brangus not saying that others won't be as good this is just the way it has when't for me.

 

[3waycross]

Mostly just meat and milk

This is what i hear alot of but in my expierence the gelbvieh did not do much the steer calves were fine but none of the hiefers ever made good cows that ever milked good or were good calf raisers. for me the best bull for angus cattle is a angus or horned hereford or brangus not saying that others won't be as good this is just the way it has when't for me.

Probably would have been better heifers if they came out of better stock....that is usually the case regardless of breed or cross!

 

[denvermartinfarms]

Mostly just meat and milk

This is what i hear alot of but in my expierence the gelbvieh did not do much the steer calves were fine but none of the hiefers ever made good cows that ever milked good or were good calf raisers. for me the best bull for angus cattle is a angus or horned hereford or brangus not saying that others won't be as good this is just the way it has when't for me.

Probably would have been better heifers if they came out of better stock....that is usually the case regardless of breed or cross!

well the bull was suposed to be really good from a reputaion breeder in this area and the cows are even better some were angus and some were charolais that were either registered or could have been and any other bull i have ever used with the same cows has made as good of heifers as there mothers so this is what got me on the gelbvieh.

 

[cow pollinater]

I don't want to steal Cross_7's thread so I hope I'm adding to it instead of hyjacking it.
My concern is their ability to go out and push. In the country that my cattle are in it takes a certain kind of cow to go out and work the entire mountain. Brangus works GREAT and some of my registered angus do pretty well. A few brangus type cows that I suspect to have some gelbvieh in them do pretty well but the heifers that I have that I know to be half gelbvieh tend to want to hang down in the easier parts of the ranch... But alot of their moms are the same way. :bang:
What do you guys that have them think? Can they get out there and scrounge with my angus/brangus cows if I mix some in?

 

[dun]

I don't want to steal Cross_7's thread so I hope I'm adding to it instead of hyjacking it.
My concern is their ability to go out and push. In the country that my cattle are in it takes a certain kind of cow to go out and work the entire mountain. Brangus works GREAT and some of my registered angus do pretty well. A few brangus type cows that I suspect to have some gelbvieh in them do pretty well but the heifers that I have that I know to be half gelbvieh tend to want to hang down in the easier parts of the ranch... But alot of their moms are the same way. :bang:
What do you guys that have them think? Can they get out there and scrounge with my angus/brangus cows if I mix some in?

When we ran cows up in the canyons the only cows that covered any ground where Brahman influenced. The British and continentals tended to not move from water hole to water hole (a mile to 3 miles apart) but the Brahman influenced stuff would. We never ran any Gelbvieh influenced cattle on range, just Simmenthal, charolais, limo and angus Hereford. We used Gert bulls a lot but ended up with problems of the Gert influenced cows stealing calves. We ended up with bone skinny cows and scrawny claves and a cople of hog fat cows in the mix. That country we figured 300 acres per pair.

 

[cow pollinater]

Dun, think of the worst stuff you saw in the dunlap area... Would they go out and work all of that country?

 

[dun]

Dun, think of the worst stuff you saw in the dunlap area... Would they go out and work all of that country?

I did, but I was a helluva lot younger

 

[cow pollinater]

:lol: I know YOU worked that country... I want to know if A gelbvieh COW can work that country. :lol: Are they as tough as YOU?

 

[dun]

:lol: I know YOU worked that country... I want to know if A gelbvieh COW can work that country. :lol: Are they as tough as YOU?

I really don;t know. It was angus Hereford crossbreds and a Brahman bull. Problem was we would finf bulls that were 4-5-6 years old and not branded so they were contributing to the genetic pool I'm sure. That as in the eraly 60s and a 900 lb cow was pretty good sized.

 

[Stocker Steve]

Muscle, milk and docility.......usually. I love the cross. Results in extra pounds for me.

Have a couple purchased balance cows. Seem to be better mothers than the common continental crosses.

I am running a Balancer clean up bull this year. More muscle and much easier to deal with than my last couple BA bulls. Have a lot of wf cows so the calves with be half angus, quarter herf, quarter GV.

 

[3waycross]

Muscle, milk and docility.......usually. I love the cross. Results in extra pounds for me.

Have a couple purchased balance cows. Seem to be better mothers than the common continental crosses.

I am running a Balancer clean up bull this year. More muscle and much easier to deal with than my last couple BA bulls. Have a lot of wf cows so the calves with be half angus, quarter herf, quarter GV.

A great cross Steve. They should pound the scale for you!

 

[Stocker Steve]

He grazed with my stockers this summer. Weighed almost 1400# at 17 months when we turned him in the the cows. If the 3X calves are as good as I hope we will do less AI next year - - just the heifers and Herf over some BA cows.