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<blockquote data-quote="regolith" data-source="post: 1087581" data-attributes="member: 9267"><p>Every-one hangs them upside down, even vets tho' they might only be doing it because it's easier just to get it over with than tell the client it's not necessary...</p><p>You're probably right. The theory I heard was that a backwards calf was at risk of breathing fluid in on the way out tho' logic kinda says if they've done that, they're drowning and you can't tip it back out - but I lift them anyway because it's what everyone's always done.</p><p>The old practise of putting them up on a gate, I've heard it puts an incredible pressure on the organs doing that.</p><p></p><p>I think you'd be able to correct a breech without an epidural. I've done several, though not on beef cows. If you see a diagram of correcting a breech the arm is cupping the foot - that's completely impossible unless the cow and calf are both tiny, I've got to let the foot follow as I pull up the hock or even upper leg if I can reach it. It's not hard to push the calf forward enough to reach the legs. I'd rather have a breech than a head back or upside down calf, any day.</p><p></p><p>For some reason I was presuming the lady discovered it was a breech by internal examination of the cow - chances are there was no part of the calf hanging out when the cow was sold.</p><p>And inyati, in this part of the world it is breaking laws, but not the sort of laws anyone gets prosecuted on. What seems to be common practise in some areas of trucking a sick or calving cow to a vet is breaching animal welfare laws if done here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="regolith, post: 1087581, member: 9267"] Every-one hangs them upside down, even vets tho' they might only be doing it because it's easier just to get it over with than tell the client it's not necessary... You're probably right. The theory I heard was that a backwards calf was at risk of breathing fluid in on the way out tho' logic kinda says if they've done that, they're drowning and you can't tip it back out - but I lift them anyway because it's what everyone's always done. The old practise of putting them up on a gate, I've heard it puts an incredible pressure on the organs doing that. I think you'd be able to correct a breech without an epidural. I've done several, though not on beef cows. If you see a diagram of correcting a breech the arm is cupping the foot - that's completely impossible unless the cow and calf are both tiny, I've got to let the foot follow as I pull up the hock or even upper leg if I can reach it. It's not hard to push the calf forward enough to reach the legs. I'd rather have a breech than a head back or upside down calf, any day. For some reason I was presuming the lady discovered it was a breech by internal examination of the cow - chances are there was no part of the calf hanging out when the cow was sold. And inyati, in this part of the world it is breaking laws, but not the sort of laws anyone gets prosecuted on. What seems to be common practise in some areas of trucking a sick or calving cow to a vet is breaching animal welfare laws if done here. [/QUOTE]
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