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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1087276" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>Breech presentation - butt first - is almost impossible for a cow to deliver - unless it's really small, or almost falling-apart rotten. </p><p>Hard to imagine being able to push one back in far enough to get the feet positioned without giving an epidural injection of lidocaine, but I'm sure folks have done it. Maybe you just need longer arms than I've got. </p><p>'Turning 'em around' - not necessary, and I'm pretty doubtful that it could be done. Once you get the back feet presented, you just pull them backwards - but be aware that once the umbilical cord is compressed in the birth canal, you're on borrowed time, so you need to be able to get the calf out fairly quickly, as its head will be the last thing out into the air.</p><p></p><p>Jerry, I used to hang 'em upside down, or swing 'em around to 'get the fluid out of their lungs'; not sure where I picked that up - I KNOW they didn't teach that in veterinary school - and now that I'm older...and maybe a little wiser... it's not necessary - and may be counterproductive. </p><p>Let's hang you (generic you) upside down, and see how easy it is for you to breathe! Really, though, hanging a calf will not 'clear the lungs' - taking a breath and inflating them pretty well takes care of any fluid that *might* still be in the mouth or trachea; prior to that first breath, there's not really any 'fluid in the lungs', as the potential air spaces are collapsed - until inflated. </p><p>No need to strain your back or get a hernia hefting a big, slippery calf up over the gate or stall divider - it doesn't do a bit of good for the calf; just let 'em breathe normally.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1087276, member: 12607"] Breech presentation - butt first - is almost impossible for a cow to deliver - unless it's really small, or almost falling-apart rotten. Hard to imagine being able to push one back in far enough to get the feet positioned without giving an epidural injection of lidocaine, but I'm sure folks have done it. Maybe you just need longer arms than I've got. 'Turning 'em around' - not necessary, and I'm pretty doubtful that it could be done. Once you get the back feet presented, you just pull them backwards - but be aware that once the umbilical cord is compressed in the birth canal, you're on borrowed time, so you need to be able to get the calf out fairly quickly, as its head will be the last thing out into the air. Jerry, I used to hang 'em upside down, or swing 'em around to 'get the fluid out of their lungs'; not sure where I picked that up - I KNOW they didn't teach that in veterinary school - and now that I'm older...and maybe a little wiser... it's not necessary - and may be counterproductive. Let's hang you (generic you) upside down, and see how easy it is for you to breathe! Really, though, hanging a calf will not 'clear the lungs' - taking a breath and inflating them pretty well takes care of any fluid that *might* still be in the mouth or trachea; prior to that first breath, there's not really any 'fluid in the lungs', as the potential air spaces are collapsed - until inflated. No need to strain your back or get a hernia hefting a big, slippery calf up over the gate or stall divider - it doesn't do a bit of good for the calf; just let 'em breathe normally. [/QUOTE]
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